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Originally Posted by Columbine
I'm assuming you're a real beginner from your question, but try and pick up hiragana ASAP and stop using romaji. You'll learn the langage faster and more accurately. Stuff like counting also makes much more sense in kanji.
Counting in Japanese is pretty logical. Think about the basics.
To get 'tens' of numbers, ie, 20, 30, 40, we take the number of tens, and then add the tens. So ni-jyuu, san-jyuu, yon-kyuu, go-jyuu, which literally is 'two-tens, three-tens, four-tens, five-tens etc"
At 100, instead of saying 'ten-tens' or 'jyuu-jyuu' we switch to using 'hyaku' and the process starts again. At 1000, we change 'jyuu-hyaku' to 'sen'.
at 10,000, we change 'jyuu-sen' to 'man'. The trick when you get to 'jyuu-man' you don't change it.
So with numbers over 100,000, it's mostly just a case of adding up 10,000's, until you get to 100 million, then the word 'oku' is used.
EG:
5= go = five
15=jyuu-go= ten and five
50= go-jyuu= five tens
500= go-hyaku =five one-hundreds
550=go-hyaku-go-jyuu= five one-hundreds and five tens.
5000= go-sen= five one-thousands.
5555= go-sen-go-hyakyu-go-jyuu-go= five one-thousands and five one-hundreds and five tens and five.
50,000= go-man= five ten-thousands.
100,000= jyuu-man = ten ten-thousands.
150,000= jyuu-go-man= 15 ten-thousands.
1,000,000= hyaku-man = 100 ten-thousands (aka, one million)
10,000,000= Sen-man = 1000 ten-thousans (aka, ten million)
As for "In the morning I eat _______." Or "I eat ____ in the morning", the simplest structure is: ( "Time" ni "Food" o "Tabemasu"). So "asa ni _____ o tabemasu." Ni is, on a very very basic level, a time/location marker. It's the 'In the' part of "in the morning' or the 'at' of "at noon". Obviously, that's not the whole story; ni has many more uses but that's all you need to know to make this sentence work.
But seriously seriously, learn your hiragana and katakana before you start going much further with your learning. Romaji will only handicap your understanding of Japanese.
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You've done a smashing job explaining this. However, without kanji, you've likely just utterly confused him. You were correct that it makes much more sense in kanji. I'd go so far as to say that, without kanji, a learner will have a
terrible time trying to learn to count past, say, nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine.