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Originally Posted by MMM
In one sentence you talk about the parent's responsibilities, and the next how you know kids who had knives, guns and porn. Which is it?
Many parents either can't or don't take responsibility, so society should not step up?
Are you saying laws should only be reactive and not proactive? Cops should solve murders, but not prevent murders?
The parent's role has completely changed, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge that. On one hand you have an idealized view of parenthood in 2009, but again, talk about the poor parenting you saw first-hand.
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Cops don't usually prevent murders except in the sense that they arrest someone who has committed a murder so that they will not commit another. They are only preventing murders when they get to the bank robbery and either shoot or take down and arrest the guy that is about to kill everyone which is not as common. Communities prevent murders by having well constructed social programs like churches and temples so people can have hope and faith, community centers so people have places to turn if they are distressed and jobs so people don't have to rob each other.
I am talking about how even though there are laws so children will not have access to porn, drugs, guns and knives. They still are all able to get them if they are so inclined. These days everyone wants to rely on the state to make sure their kids don't do anything wrong. Which, as clearly shown in the examples I have cited from my life, does not work at all. So what should we do? Parents need to realize their role. That means it would make more sense to put money into parent training programs or websites dedicated to teaching parents how to prevent these situations and also letting parents know it is their responsibility. The state is not going to step in until it is too late and the kid is already a hard criminal. That will light a fire under their butt.
Laws against murder and robbery are not the same as laws limiting personal choice. Laws as such are more akin to thought crimes. Just because you don't do drugs does not mean others should not be allowed too. The same goes for owning guns and knives. The fact that, as I have stated, many kids who have access to drugs etc. do not participate in them is a testament to good parenting. No law is necessary. With that said, if you want to say something to the effect that cops who see a kid with a joint should take it away and call his parents, it would be more of an acceptable situation. A fine, penalty, jail or prison time is, in my opinion, way overboard.
Remember, lately we have seen an increase of police going into peoples homes to deal with situations they should plainly have no part in. Just recently a girl got tased for not going to bed. The mother even condoned it. That kind of president is completely insane and without merit. You see, the state is often much worse at teaching or dealing with children than the parents. It is not you who will take custody of the child if the parents are deemed unsafe or unworthy. It is some faceless government bureaucracy.
So no, I do not believe that the Minority Report is a good standard for the future of law and government.