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Originally Posted by Ryzorian

American culture, at it's heart, is a wild spirit, one that constantly yerns to be free. Give me liberty or give me death, was one of the sayings during the revolution. The whole concept of being American tends to be very "in your face" about that freedom. I understand how that brazen, brashness can be considered in a negitive light by other countries. Still, it's how this country was born, and raised. What is, is.

its funny how you mention your country being born during the rebelion,
and then go on to mention Avatar.

America is not about freedom, its not about liberty.

you have no freedom, you have no liberty.

your hallowed constitution, your sacred bill of rights is not worth squat.

welcome to the world of the Patriot Act, legislation pushed through by the conservative christians, and not opposed by the masses due to the general ignorance of politics.

hmm lets have a look at what history taught me in school.
in 1933 the german reichstag was burnt down, hitler used this as just reason to pass the enabling act. taking away civil liberties the right to trial, freedom of the people and the press.
in 2001 the NY world trade centre was attacked, Bush used this as just reason to pass the Patriot act. taking away civil liberties the right to trial, freedom of the people and the press

i will attach a nice little picture.

recommend some reading is done.
just google hitler vs bush,
or
Enabling act vs patriot act.

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

even if I personally think we should be.
I fully go with the idea of total war,

then your a prick.
this is what your war does...... <warning - link is victim of war!>
The Victims of War

would you even have the balls to tell her that you agree with war?

doubt it.

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

The US has been playing with kid gloves thus far, you may feel differently, and that's your right. However, if we had wanted too, Iraq and Afganistan would be nothing more than parking lots now. Just ask Japan, they know what the US can do if it really wanted to.

oh you must be American......

a few pointers.
1. the US has not been playing with kid gloves,
your just getting your arse kicked even though you out tech the enemy.
for the taliban , in terms of tech, its like fighting soldiers from the future.
planes, bombs, UAV etc.
however. the US is sending 18yr olds fresh out of training against hardened mujihadeen who are aged 30-40+ and have been warriors since the Russians were there. (thats the 80's by the way) and even then have been engaged in tribal warfare.
your not playing with kid gloves, your just getting owned by a bunch of middle aged men with Ak's sitting in caves.

point 2.
your ignorant
"we could just Nuke them all"

no, no you couldn't
because the USA has signed up to the NO first strike treaty.
along with Russia, China, India, Pakistan France etc. etc.
if the US were to invalidate that treaty then there would be nothing stopping the Russian ICBM multi-warhead nuclear sub that is silently sitting near alaska from launching its volley of 14 ICBM's , each capable of delivering 10 warheads to different targets within a 2000 mile radius.

the US would be left with 140 nuclear impacts on cities and tactical locations and no real proof that it was the Russians anyway. (orthe Indians, or the Chinese, or Pakistani's etc. who all have nuclear submarines and warheads with similar capabilities)

thus nukes wont be used, cant be used.

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

We aren't doing that today, no, we are trying to be "humane" against an enemy who straps live mines to two year olds..( I know the guy who had to shoot the two year old)

this is BS.

1. a 2 year old cannot carry that much weight, bombs, especially those used by the insurgance are heavy
2. why would you need to shoot the 2 year old, you could incapacitate it with a rock.
3. a 2 year old with a bomb strapped to it, well thats going to require remote detonation which wont work because the ISAF forces use signal jammers, which is why they use suicide bombers!
4. there should not even be a 4 this is clearly bull

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

The world isn't like Avatar, there really are evil people in this world who are hell bent on destroying everything everyone holds dear if you don't worship how they want you to.

but i suppose the world is just like fox tells you it is huh?

its funny, you say there are really evil people out there who are hell bent on destroying everything everyone holds dear, yet you have just stated that you would condone the use of force to the point that
everything that everyone in afghanistan holds dear, like thier homes, lives, lives of thier children, parents infact whole civilisation should be destroyed.

you say there are evil people out there.

yes there are.

and just as is the case with islamic extremism.

those evil people rely on the stupid, the gullable, and uneducated to keep them in power.

(did you know that those who are suicide bombers and lower level mujohadeen fighters, who die for allah, have not even read the loran?? - they go on what they have been told.

and how many US citizens have read the patriot act? have you?
no you just go on what your told.

you are no different from them.

you just live in a different location