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Originally Posted by Nyororin
But blowing them out of proportion is also only going to get people to panic rather than looking at the situation calmly and taking proper action.
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I think its time to panic when a company refuses the acknowledge what a national news agency such as ABC is telling the nation... cars are running out of control and original Toyota Stone walled: SEE SLIDE SHOW FIRST LINK BOTTOM OF PAGE. It was originally played down when it was though come to florishen that there are millions of these cars on the road.
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No it isn`t. Toyota vehicles aren`t so amazingly different that directions on how to stop one is different than that for others. Even the push button ignition isn`t unique to Toyota. Stopping a car that has an acceleration issue - or one with failed brakes - falls into the common sense category of information. Everyone should know this - it shouldn`t be directed only at Toyotas. But fear mongering is what sells...
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I ask again: Where is this fear mongering you are speaking of?
Everyone should know how to control a car with a stuck accelerator but they don't. The media had to provide this little tid bit of life saving information, Toyota didn't because they didn't acknowledge the problem.
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I`m not demonizing him. I never said it wasn`t a safety issue - but apparently that is a subject of opinion. It`s a known issue with electronic cruise control systems and should be fixed. The thing is, it`s not limited to Toyota or the Prius. BMW has the same issue in some of their cars. (FIL does, and was told by the dealer that it`s a "sporty driving feature"...)
And by the way - you are asking for it to take you to excessive speed. The problem is that the system makes it really easy for you to accidentally ask for that, but not easy (short of hitting the brakes) to change the speed setting to a lower one. It`s a design flaw, no doubt, but not a "runaway Toyota!"
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If the cruise control jumps you from 60 to 100 without the driver doing it, then its a runaway car plain and simple. This may be the case with Steve Apple's model. A software bug.
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Lack of immediate recall isn`t lack of immediate attention. I guess the wording on that could be better... You can have action and attention behind the scenes without calling for a recall day one if you don`t know what the problem is. I tried to explain this. You don`t come out and say "Yeah, it looks like there is a problem but we don`t know yet what it is! Sorry!" - you wait until you do know the problem and then announce it. Corporate culture sucks, but it`s not just Toyota. If every company announced every complaint they received without knowing for sure what caused it, without checking it was really their fault, etc, there would be so much crap flooding the air that no one would bother listening.
It would have been better if they`d figured out the other problem first, or the two issues at the same time. But it would have been silly of them to say "Yeah, this isn`t the issue, but we`re just going to recall mats anyway." Unfortunately this has come back to bite them.
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I want the company to tell me when there is a problem of problems that can kill me or someone else, simple as that. Then I can decide if I want to risk driving it or not or endager other people's lives. Its fine if you don't know what the problem stems from but TELL ME IF THE CAR COULD GO OUT OF CONTROL.
It wouldn't be silly, it would be cautious at the expense of the company for their customers.
recall no, admit problem yes
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The "single program" bit was referring specifically to the "conspiracy to kill Americans" silliness. The rest - do a search on Google. Shouldn`t be too hard to find enough examples. I`m not going to go through my history to hunt down the specific articles I have read since this fiasco started.
Of course, if you agree that every single Toyota on the road is an out of control death trap, then I guess you might not think anything of the articles.
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No. I'm calling BS on this. If there are so many, direct me to only two. The go google it yourself thing won't cut it for me when you write up this up as media hyperbole. If you have time to write all of this then you got time to direct me to two of these articles.
I'm asking YOU for the articles/news that said "every single" Toyota on the road is out of control death trap. DONT turn this around and try to make it look like I'm saying this.
You call this recall a media hyberbole, when I call it the media doing its job and Toyota asleep at the wheel.
Terror on the Roads: Runaway Toyotas - ABC News
Toyota Recall: New Questions About What the Motor Company Knew and When - ABC News
Toyota President Denies Cover-Up - ABC News
I like the idea of having a law like Japan does (as posted in this thread from my post of the wall street journal online) that its required by law for companies to report a product that has caused injury or death by how many counts to the government so they can get the word out.
Questions Grow on Japanese Manufacturing Quality - WSJ.com