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Bully? C'mon, don't suddenly get thin skin.
It is statements like this that make me feel like you are relishing in it. Obviously this is the internet, but it is the sense I get:
Those are your words. Here are some more:
You say directly you want to see them BBQed in the media. I call that relishing.
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You're wrong I get no pleasure from this mess. Nor did I ever say I wanted them to fail. I do want them to be humble and admit. That is not relishing. That is not wanting them to fail. I do want them to come clean with all their vehicle faults and do proper tests to determine them. They need to be more open with the public... they have been stonewalling up to the point of the recall which waisted vaulable time.
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I am just curious about all the deaths and lives ruined in this recall, as the KYODO news I am about to quote from today's Japan times says there have been 14 complaints in Japan, including one accident that led to two people slightly injured, and of the 100 complaints received by the NHTSA for the Prius, included two accidents that led to injuries. In the articles I am looking at right now, I am not seeing a death count, and it seems like that would be included if they are going to talk about injuries.
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Not enough dead or runined lives for you yet? You are heartless too then.
Take a look at the 3 ABC links I posted, you're answers are there.
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Clint, I think you need to get a little less personal in your arguments here. We are all adults talking about a car recall. I am not sure why you are so emotioanlly attached to the issue, and I don't particularly care, but just because Nyororin is looking at this in a different way than you does not mean she is "utterly heartless". Statements like this only take away attempts at a continuing a civil dialog, assuming that is what you want to do.
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You are the one who started saying I relish in the Toyota recall and wanted to see them fail and not fix things. I didn't. You are calling names.
Nyororin can take care of herself, somewhat, in her verbal dialog. I'm just pointing out that she sees the media as overracting and naming names by using the "Toyota" in the headlines as a media Hyperbole. My point is, without the media in this case, the problems would have never been known for even longer while Toyota either drug their feet or tried to hide the problem. She made it personal when she calls this a media over-reaction to a serious issue. She also said the Media was plastering conspiracy documents that "Conspiracy to have Americans killed by foreign / Toyota vehicles", which then retracted to only one document which she can't produce. Then posts *one* Ehow document on the examples of this is a media hyperbole.
My point is, take what the media is printing seriously on this matter, and for people to stand up and not take this crap anymore. There is no defense to this level of failure at Toyota.