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02-05-2010, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IamKira View Post
technically, a feminist is a person who cares about womans rights, so I am a feminist myself, and I'd hope you'd be as well.
A feminist is one who cares about rights for women... This doesn`t extend to the general rights of people, so in too many cases it takes on the meaning of "women`s rights above all others".
I am an egalitarian. I believe in equal rights for both men and women - not just in rights for women.

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anyway back to the main topic... marriage was born as a strategy in life to make neg. utility from a break up higher than positive utility.
now, however, marriage is almost purely a womans gain strategy. Women of the world, if you want to make some major bucks, marry a guy, have a kid with him and seek divorce.
This is where what you think of the marriage as comes into play. If you think of it as a temporary arrangement, or one with few consequences for not fulfilling it... That is exactly what it will be.
A marriage isn`t necessary for a happy and productive relationship - it`s just a tool to make things easier, really. This is why I don`t really think that it is something that should be abolished.

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as long as there is a kid involved, the woman has a solid 60's - 80's percentile probability of getting custody.. the courts just naturally want to see the mother with the kid... when that happens, 70% of assets go to the mother so she can raise the standard of living for the kid.
This really doesn`t have much at all to do with marriage these days - at least not in the US. A woman can have a one night stand, get pregnant, and then demand a chunk of the man`s income for the child. Live together for a few years and prove you invested anything into the purchase of a house / car / etc - and there is a fair chance of receiving it when a child is involved. Marriage itself isn`t at fault here - it`s the whole attitude toward marriage and the selfishness in these relationships. It`s really just a tool that can be misused.
If marriage as an institution were removed, I don`t see anything really changing. There would be just as many people out there being selfish and screwing each other over in some way. The only difference would be whether they were registered with the government.


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