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Originally Posted by Nyororin

That might get you laid, but if that is your only interest in a relationship, why not just pay for it and not worry about the whole getting involved bit?

For one thing it’s illegal, but it’s up to anyone else if they want to get involved in that. Second, you pay far more being in a relationship or even getting a girl into bed than "paying for it". Time, effort and even money. And not that I would know for sure about the latter but the former seems like a much better thrill.

If you actually want an actual relationship, love, etc... My biggest question when people bring this up is - Would you want to be with the type of woman who would jump into bed with a jerk?

Whether they actually do it or not is irrelevant. The greater point is that most women would want to if they did. If they jumped into bed with someone, a boring nice guy would not be their first choice, not even their 10th choice. Sure, if the 11th choice is all they can get, that’s what they’ll go for. That’s just how they’re set up regardless of whatever conscious merits they have. And college age people are going to do this a lot so if you want to play the game (and all guys do), might as well learn to play it well and there's no regrets later.

Do you think a functional relationship could come of that?

It may or may not. It’s really not important. Even in the case of seeking a relationship, a girl’s first choice will never be a nice guy. Even if getting dead serious is what a guy wants at that age, for whatever absurd reason, then acting the nice guy will not attract what they want anyway.

And if you ARE a jerk, you probably wouldn`t be trying to be a nice guy to begin with, so "stopping faking" probably wouldn`t get you what you want either.
The advice to stop acting isn`t going to help the REAL nice guys out there, who seem to get the shortest end of the stick.

There is no such thing as that nice of a guy. Of course there’s plenty of guys who aren’t selfish, but not to the point that they will give a random stranger that much attention like when a so-called nice-guy gives a girl attention. Why would somebody do this to somebody they don’t really know that well or never even met before? Because they’re interested in them, that’s why. Most of them you won’t see entertaining sick little kids at the hospital to make them feel special or volunteering to chat up lonely old people. None of those so-called nice guys are going to be chatting up some other dude that looks depressed to make them feel better, nor any girl they’re not into. What’s so nice about “acting” nice to a girl they like? Nothing worth labeling someone a “nice guy” over. That’s all I’m saying. I mean sure, I could consider myself a “nice guy” if I care for things beyond myself, and I do, but that in itself will not get a guy a thing nor promote goodness in the world. REAL nice guys are going to waste a lot of their time believing otherwise until they finally pick up a weapon. Not that I believe there actually are that many REAL nice guys, because there aren’t.

Besides that flawed definition of “nice guy”. The regular nice guys, that is, the ones a notch above sociopaths are going to fail at getting what they want also if they don’t quit being obsequious pushovers. Nobody wins there except perhaps entitled girls who devour random attention so they can grow their entitlement ego even bigger. And those girls are still going to love giving it to the jerk regardless.

It only means something as long as you think it does - not much different than a legal marriage. And the people who would make a commitment that means something are the people who wouldn`t be screwed over by a normal marriage.

Maybe, maybe not. But in the U.S., the statistics suggest otherwise.