[Nyororin]

You know, I`m having a really hard time figuring out whether you hate women, hate marriage, hate women who get married, hate men who get married, or what exactly.

If all women are gold diggers only attracted to jerks and looking to screw men over (except for the "exceptions")... How would abolishing marriage change anything?

I`ve seen plenty of divorces, and while the divorce itself is most often instigated by the woman... I`d say that the reasons for the relationship failing have been split pretty much 50/50. For every woman who sees a divorce as an easy way to get a free ticket through life, there is a man who sees a wife at home with a new baby as a free ticket to screw his secretary. In both of these cases, I`d say that it`s much much more likely that the wife is going to be the one filing for divorce... but in the latter, I think it would be hard to say that the woman is the one in the wrong.

Unless, of course, you blame her for falling for the type of jerk who would do that to her to begin with. A nice little way to make everything the woman`s fault. If the guy falls for the type of woman who will screw him over, sure - he should have done things differently, but it`s the woman`s fault for doing that to him. If the woman falls for a jerk who screws her over, even if he was being a "nice guy" and hiding his inner jerkiness (deceiving her, in other words) - that is her fault too because he has been brainwashed and misguided to do so. You`re even approving of men screwing women over so they can sort of get back at them (because the woman is the bad one here).

Very convenient, don`t you think? It`s kind of funny that you brought up mercedesjin earlier in the thread because you`re dropping into the same type of territory. Anything that doesn`t follow your opinion is clearly either an exception or anyone thinking that way has been brainwashed and forced by society to feel that way.

I actually agreed with a chunk of what you were saying at the very beginning, or at least what I thought you were saying. I agree that divorces favor the woman too much in a lot of cases, and that husbands and fathers get the short end of the stick way too much. But you`ve deteriorated into just spewing hate for women and encouraging guys to screw them over because it`s nature and they deserve it for not being attracted to better guys.

You continually go on about all women wanting to screw men over - and if they do not it`s only because they cannot... Regardless of whether this is true or not - it really has NOTHING to do with marriage. Nothing. You say it does, but it does not. Why? Because it`s about relationships. A relationship is STILL a relationship without a marriage license. You have stated this. You ask why a relationship needs legal backing - clearly a relationship can exist without it, right? Abolishing marriage - or making it unnecessary - would do nothing to change the dynamics of a relationship. Jerks will still be jerks, gold diggers will still be gold diggers, ad infinitum. "Marriage" is little more than a tool - in it`s absence, people who were/would be misusing it to screw their partners will just find another way.

I really don`t care all that much what you think, or where your ideas come from... But I do feel a bit sad that you`ll probably never be able to be involved in a relationship founded on trust - as it is pretty clear that you do not trust women at all.