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Originally Posted by Nyororin

You know, I`m having a really hard time figuring out whether you hate women, hate marriage, hate women who get married, hate men who get married, or what exactly.

What I hate is the way things are going while some people do this:

If all women are gold diggers only attracted to jerks and looking to screw men over (except for the "exceptions")... How would abolishing marriage change anything?

I never said that. I said the ones who can be tend to be, and that the current system of legal contract union (marriage) encourages this. I'm also only talking about in America. I know for a fact that other countries such as in latinamerica are not so lavish towards women in a divorce and the divorce rate is lower. Coincidence? Let the people decide.

Very convenient, don`t you think? It`s kind of funny that you brought up mercedesjin earlier in the thread because you`re dropping into the same type of territory. Anything that doesn`t follow your opinion is clearly either an exception or anyone thinking that way has been brainwashed and forced by society to feel that way.

The difference is that I have presented some tangible evidence while the they have presented "works for ME" and "I don't like it, you're wrong", opinions. And even if their experiences count as evidence, then so do mine and I presented those, too.

I actually agreed with a chunk of what you were saying at the very beginning, or at least what I thought you were saying. I agree that divorces favor the woman too much in a lot of cases, and that husbands and fathers get the short end of the stick way too much. But you`ve deteriorated into just spewing hate for women and encouraging guys to screw them over because it`s nature and they deserve it for not being attracted to better guys.

I agree that the system favors the woman but this is not going to change so the source must be attacked, that being the marriage contract, and since I know it's not going to change, my advice against marriage stands.

And it's not hate, it's love, if anything. Because clearly the women are screwing themselves by acting stupidly without direction after all the supposed freedoms feminism has earned them. I encourage the guys to seize control of the situation through whatever relatively ethical means available; that's what most women inherently prefer anyways. Or to put it another way, if women can put on fake eyelashes, the guys should put on fake attitudes. Besides that, things will work themselves out once the delusions are discarded by enough individuals. The actual actions are flexible.

You continually go on about all women wanting to screw men over - and if they do not it`s only because they cannot... Regardless of whether this is true or not - it really has NOTHING to do with marriage.

That's your opinion. I already told you the motivations are all interconnected. If you don't agree, that's fine.

Abolishing marriage - or making it unnecessary - would do nothing to change the dynamics of a relationship.

Again, or perhaps it would and these are all assumptions from us both. Either way, I'm advising guys to not get into a marriage contract.