[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by Columbine

Nope, I second this. I have totally been in a bar with a bunch of non-japanese men and once the booze starts flowing the talk always seems to turn right around to this.

I feel a lot better knowing this isn`t just me. I was having doubts for a minute there... Or wondering if I was just incredibly unlucky in that area.

Sometimes it's almost like a vitriolic issue of "hey, let's make a point about how much western girls suck".

This is definitely true.

And honestly, some of the non-japanese girls could be just as bad.

I have found that when it`s a non-Japanese woman going on about Japanese men, she usually has never dated one... And would never consider it thanks to the stereotypes that are floating around. I have had some pretty directly nasty things said to me by non-Japanese women (specifically military base wives...) My son has some serious medical issues, and I was told it was god`s way of telling me I shouldn`t have mated with a monkey.

And I've definitely heard the slagging off of asian men and then rather pointed pity looks aimed at the girls. Or brags of "Yeah, well, I gotta sleep with as many as I can, give the poor girls something to remember!"

Yep, this too.

When the other guys asked it, it was always like they wanted me to immediately say how awful they were (and by default, how much better western guys are, and how sorry I am to have strayed from the path of giant...ego...).

Yep. I have been asked if I missed giant...egos. :P But in the same breath also told I would just have to settle for a Japanese guy anyway, as no guy who`d been with a Japanese girl would ever settle for "less".

I think you might be onto something with area though. Avoiding the gaijin hot-spots meant I ran into a lot less of this kind of thing, and you did meet more non-japanese guys who weren't there just for the girls so much.

I was thinking it was the other way around. I have never even been to a "gaijin hot-spot". I usually end up being introduced via some weird connection. I am registered with my town hall as a translator, so will be called time to time when there is someone who needs help figuring out the trash schedule or something like that. Mainly it`s that or introduced by someone just having met someone else foreign and thinking I might be interested in being friends. (Usually I`m not.)