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Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki
I said as a last resort and only with just cause. You have said nothing here I did not advocate before, I am saying simply that in some circumstances, where you are aware of a history of an individual, you may be forced to do significant damage because if you don't, you will be in imminent and significant danger yourself.
We're talking three or four noses over the course of some twenty five odd years here, clint. I have never started an altercation, and I do not have a history of violent outbursts. I did, however, defend myself when I needed to. I felt that I was in a situation where I would not just be hurt, but be hurt badly. Therefore, I do not believe that removing the ability of the individual to harm me or others in the future was an unreasonable move, even if it caused unintended consequences.
Don't put words in my mouth or psychoses in my head.
Terrible advice, I think. It sets up a pattern that invites more attacks (bullies look for those that don't fight back).
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Over 25 odd years? you were breaking noses back in kindergarden?
3 or 4? Can't remember? Seriously, if I did a full break of a nose or was in an altercation like that, I'd remember it and how many.
Anyway I was just replying to the fact of the first punch situation and the dangers that lie within your approach.
Taking the "first swing" in order to "break a nose" in a "touch me negatively or approach me in a clearly threatening manner" even in a last resort before they may attack isn't wise in any situation unless its *life threatening* - i.e. someone got a serious weapon; in which case even then you don't bring a fist to weapons fight.
I think the advice you give in this case is dangerous, ill-advised, and will not lead to a good end. One with a broken nose make seek a uglier revenge in these crazy days. Also for the reasons in my first post.
I would just hope this isn't something you teach your students if they came to you with such a problem as you advise here. In general that is what you are doing in this forum.
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Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki
Yes, sometimes, violence does solve the problem. Restrained, specific violence. It's when you lose control and use violence unrestrictedly that you become the bad guy, rather than the victim defending yourself.
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Violence solves nothing in the end. Especially in these bully situations.