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Fine, let's call Joe Stack a terrorist. Labels don't really matter, anyway.

Originally Posted by clintjm

"Complaints and dispute through the proper channels like everyone else and through free speech is the only way" <add> that you can redeem your liberty and stop the Tyranny of government. Just keep voting them out of office. If they break a law, then hold them to it. If the law isn't clear enough, amend it; get it changed; add some proper regulation if need be.

You are naive. You should read the terrorist's letter. He touches on all of this.

- The "proper channels" are corrupt and biased in favor of the oppressors

- "Voting them out of office" just means you pick one of two puppets in one system controlled by the same biased dynamic. Some lowly goofs can vote all they want for a 3rd party; they'll keep losing for their whole lifetime to the two party system, where at least one is controlled directly by the rich interests and the other just as well indirectly. You're voting for the same scam in a different package.

- The laws themselves are being controlled by the people you'd try to "hold them to it". Money talks and bullshit walks.

Sure some get away with it... but they gamble on getting caught and some get caught and do hard time.

Caught with what? Don't you understand they don't get "caught" with anything by and large because they obfuscate legality and influence the system in favor of their interests. This is the whole point.

There will be never-ending debate on how the government handled (and continues to handle) the economic crisis.

And most of it is just a brown load of glossy corporate fluff. Anybody that relies on TV "news" just to form an opinion is nothing more than a serf playing along -- and that is most of America --

for instance, any talking point of liberal/conservative republican/democrat that you could probably come up with:

However the mortgage bubble and credit fiasco has plenty of blame to go around to the consumer living beyond their means. Throw in some tyranny and here is what you got.

the evil nnnnnnnutjob:
"
"The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
"The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."
"

I'm not buying it. He was a nutjob because he had a suicidal rage, but it's just very comfortable to dismiss it all as a nutjob's ramblings because of two lines. We're talking about a man who killed himself in a rage and those closing lines seem like a middle finger to what he thought were the villains. I'm sure everyone is aware of how brainwashed conservative-impersonators feel about iconic dogma words such as "communism" and I'm sure Stack did as well.

I find it ironic that the guy burned down his rather expensive house, and owned a plane to fly into the building.

It seems the IRS demanded his life savings and were going to take his house as well.