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Originally Posted by TenshiChan
Why not? I'm not welcome if I don't know any Japanese?
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No, don't get defensive. You're definitely welcome here. But it's pointless to teach you stuff when you have no basis to actually comprehend it. That's my point. It's like me asking someone to teach me how to land an airplane before I've learned how to take off.
I mean, you have said yourself
you don't know any Japanese. So why do you want to know how to pronounce something that you literally cannot use?! It's confusing to me!
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I meant could you please tell me the words as I don't know those characters, so I can't pronounce what it says.
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Why do you need to know? I thought your boyfriend wrote some stupid and poor Japanese and you just wanted to know if it was correct. Now you want me to teach you what the correct thing is? At this point, it's really starting to ring my "person wants a Japanese tattoo" alarm!
I'm not going to teach you how to pronounce it
because what I told you is not good Japanese (it's correct, but not good). Translating "poetic" English into another language inevitably will lose stuff in translation. To top that off, I'm not a professional translator, so what I've given you is most assuredly not a decent translation of something "poetic." The feeling will have been lost.
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I'm sorry I don't know any Japanese, but I really want to learn.
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Start reading Tae Kim's site. Google it. You'll know it when you see it. Learn what's on there, and you'll be further ahead than anyone in even a second-year Japanese class at any university in the US.
Looking over your posts, you've said you're "trying to understand." My point is that you shouldn't
be trying to understand something like this. You should be trying to understand how to read kana and how to form simple sentences. You're just a duckling! Inevitably if you start learning stuff you're not ready for, you're going to think you get it and make a lot more mistakes by misapplying stuff.
Over in another thread, someone keeps trying to use てはいけない in ways it is not meant to. The person doesn't seem to have the proper foundation to actually use てはいけない yet because the scenarios in which he is trying to use てはいけない would be better suited to use a different grammar point he should have learned before てはいけない: regular old past tense of a regular old verb!
I'm not angry with you. I'm not trying to be a fuddy duddy or hide the ball or prevent you from learning. I'm trying to save you future difficulty by trying to learn stuff out of order (OK, and a little part of me is suspicious that you're just fishing for a Japanese tattoo).
Regardless, here's what you should be doing to learn Japanese right now:
1. google "tae kim japanese"
2. read the Tae Kim site and learn what's on it
3. enjoy knowing a ton of Japanese
While doing this, definitely come here and ask questions about what you're learning! I'll be more than happy to assist you in your goals! (I'm a nice guy, really I am!) I'm sure other JF users will be happy to help, too. This forum is to help improve the Japanese of friendly people