[MMM]

Originally Posted by clintjm

I'm confused.

You should be.

Originally Posted by clintjm

Is Obama a socialist or isn't he?

He isn't.

But when you listen to enough entertainers like Glenn Beck that will scream Obama is a socialist until he cries things become...confusing.

Originally Posted by clintjm

According to Tswabuki, a proclaimed socialist, he agrees in the above responses that the president and the administration is working toward socialism and that is why he votes the way he does.

I see. Now Tsuwabaki is your guru.

Originally Posted by clintjm

When I asked "Which ideologies of socialism do you think the president and most of the administration is: democratic socialism or Marxist-Leninist socialism?"

And it was answered. Why isn't he a socialist then?

I answered that question above. Sadly, I am not your socialist guru, so my responses are ignored.

Originally Posted by clintjm

What I'm reading is he has socialist agendas, but he isn't a socialist.

What are these socialist agendas?

Either Obama is a "do-nothing president" or he is carrying America to a "socialist utopia".

It can't be both. But I understand why you are confused, Clint. Because these conflicting messages that the right wing talking heads toss out simply don't add up.

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Originally Posted by clintjm

Now with this being said MMM: "Socialism is the new Red Scare. "S" is the new Scarlet Letter. Being associated with socialism is the new beginning to the end of a political career."

Yes I agree American fear this. Why are Americans afraid of this? Do you believe that Americans dis-taste for socialism only lies in relating it to Marxist-Socialism and other -isms?

MMM, to be fair Obama had only been in office 3 months when that article was written; well before this rolla coaster took off.

The "rolla coaster" took off long before he took office, but I think I already answered this question.

I don't listen to Right Wing radio or watch Right Wing TV any more than I have to, but I do know that in the simplest terms this equation is pounded out again and again:

Obama = Socialism = Bad

Say it enough times and it starts to become true in people's minds. Again, your confusion is understood, because this equation doesn't add up.

Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki

I think Obama is personally not a socialist. But that isn't what I thought you were previously asking.

I think his policies are as far as he can go to not alienate people like me who are and yet not risk losing votes of independents, or more conservative members of our own party. I do think some of the policies, such as healthcare, are headed that direction, and that the Obama administration as a whole, just as previous Democratic adminstrations, has a progressive and socialist "taste" to it.

Tsuwabaki, I didn't think Clint was really wanting to play this "game" but it is the latest distraction of the alienated right: let's get people to call Obama a socialist.

You got hooked.