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04-18-2010, 07:30 PM

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Pause please. Hypothetical worlds where this is considered the norm are all very well but they are exactly that; a myth. Sorry. Fact. This is the real world and I'd like to keep this discussion grounded in it. As it happens, blue lipstick is currently 'in vogue' at the moment in the UK. I have seen it done exactly once in a way that actually seemed flattering. Just because it's 'in fashion', doesn't automatically make something a judicious choice. Harem pants a prime example. In fashion last summer and now booed off stage by the fashion industry.

Point the second; I'm saying the ~outfit~ is ridiculous. Not the girl. Not even that particular style of fashion. That one outfit. So please stop generalizing me as the global oppressor of self-expression. I'm perfectly willing to say she might have outfits on a similar theme that work. This one doesn't. It makes her look silly. You can say that's just my opinion, and it is, but I'm certainly not alone in it. And I think there is certainly a point where something stops being opinion and starts being true. The habit doth not make the monk, but it sure disguises him as one.

Thirdly, seeing as you're bringing 'rights' into it, I think you'll find I'm perfectly in my right to say she looks ridiculous if I think so. Saying I have no right to express an opinion other than one you deem to be best is just as offensive as my expressing a negative opinion. She's within her rights to dress how she pleases and say it is beautiful. But she has no right to demand that I agree with her. And neither do you.

Besides, I never said I was the sort to go up to someone and say what I think of what they're wearing. Unless I really like it. As Misa said, it's just not nice. But that's not how things are in this case. YOU pinned this girl up as an example of 'not ridiculous' and invited opinion. I'm not out to shame anyone into changing their way of dress but I'm not going to be anything other than honest if you ask my opinion. Particularly not when the subject is a mere ~picture~ of someone I don't know, will never meet and who will presumably never hear my comments. Get a grip and stop making such a mountain out of a molehill. I'm starting to think this is a picture of your sister or something.

Which brings me onto my last point. You seem to assume that I dress 100% normal 100% of the time and therefore I am intolerant to this style of dress or else jealous because I don't have the guts to wear something that bucks the norm of society. How can you POSSIBLY comment? You have never seen me nor the contents of my wardrobe and I'm not about to disclose that sort of information on the internet. Just how biased and offensive is that assumption anyway? Because I dislike it, I must be just another repressed sheep with no idea about self-expression and thus my opinion isn't valid?
2 - Nobody said that you said that she was ridiculous. Just her sense of fashion - particularly for that outfit.

You saying that she looks ridiculous just because it's your opinion, doesn't necessarily makes her look ridiculous on her outfit. Because you know, there isn't any "universal rule" that stipulates that. Just a bunch of media-brain-washed moogles who thinks so.

3- Well, it probably harms her psychologically. Do you have the right to harm her?

1- I, personaly, don't think that that dress is good. That's my opinion.
2- Jesus christ that outfit is RIDICULOUS! That's SOOOOOO undiva-.


Is she harming you by dressing that way? Is she harming you by thinking she is beautiful in that dress?

You can say you don't like it. You're expressing your opinion freely, without agreeing with her's. But sorry, you can't categorize it "ridiculous" and claim that "half the world" agrees.

4- Just because you find it ridiculous doesn't mean it is. Same goes to me - just because I don't find it ridiculous it doesn't mean it isn't.

No, she's not my sister. And yes, I DO make such a mountain out of a molehill.

Adventures in Anime Conventions: Cosplay - Unsought Input

That's the source. It's from some anime convention.

5- Yes, you are right here. And I apologize.


Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like.
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