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04-28-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nobora View Post
I personally don't like this law because it's stupid. If a immigrant is legal they shouldn't have to carry around their document saying that their legal. That document costs 500 dollars to get replaced. After someone did all that paper work for years just to be a citizen and then not be trusted about being one is just dumb. plus most of the jobs that no one wants to do is taken by illegal immigrants.
If you read the actual bill, which is posted throughout this thread, you don't need to carry a birth certificate or legalization papers etc. All you need is a state DL or State ID or any other government issued ID (listed in the bill and in the John Lott Article).

The fact we have to carry ID, in any country, is a fact of life. Trust has nothing to do with it; police can't trust anyone they stop. Citizens and Legals are not excluded from the horrible question of ID isn't new and you do it every time you interact with state or federal government. The fact is Mexico (Perfect example for this case), Japan, Canada, Europe, etc etc. can ask you for your ID to find your status of legality in the place you are being asked. The only differences is in these countries is they are not hindered by liberal nonsensical talking points of you can't ask me that because I'm of a specific or difference race.

Try refusing ID in any of these countries you'll get similar results in all.
America is no different.

It is also fictional talking point that jobs no one wants are taken by illegal immigrants. A job an illegal takes is a job that a legal immigrant or citizen would gladly take. Illegals taking low paying jobs brings down the income of all. That is why there are limits to the amount of immigrants allowed to migrate to the U.S. at one time. If we just open the flood gates for all to come at once, the country would not be able to sustain it. It is also not fair for the one who have come here legally or have even worked to obtain citizenship.

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I think some should take the time to read the bill before commenting with only commentary headline talking points.

Arizona is only doing this because it has to. There is an emergency there as with other states.
The Federal government will not secure the border or will even admit they are unsecured:

Side note:

GOP's Graham: No immigration bill until 2012 - Washington Times

"But under close questioning by Mr. Graham, Ms. Napolitano could not say whether she would declare the border secure if she were still the governor of Arizona. She called it an "unfair question."

"It is a fair question, and I'll give you my answer: I don't think it is," Mr. Graham said. "I think since the last effort to solve immigration the border situation has deteriorated." "

Janet Napolitano is head of homeland security. Kinda of her job to know and to secure the borders.
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