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05-06-2010, 02:39 AM

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No, they are not, they take effect in 2014, read the fine print. The biggest things takeing place right now are the taxes part. The candy tidbits they offer early are just that, candy, and candy is never healthy in large amounts.
It depends on what you consider important. Is limiting health insurance companies' abilities to drop coverage of children who develop cancer important?

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The constitution doesn't offer "health care", you take care of your self, that's constitutional. If you can't take care of yourself, get a church or family to help, or go to charity, or die. The government is not suppose to get involved. Sure it's harsh, doing things on our own is what made America great. These government programs have been withering away out our self worth since the 30's.
Does the Constitution offer interstate highways? Does the Constitution offer police protection? Does the Constitution offer Social Security?

If you want to say the government shouldn't do anything, that is fine. Put up a high fence and get your canned food and shotguns ready. Personally I prefer the society we live in now.

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This idea that government should do everything is retarded, might as well put the slave shackles on yourself.
That slope got slippery fast.

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Our founding farthers themselves knew this. "A government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." They will too.
Thomas Jefferson would know. He said that phrase while owning dozens of black slaves.
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