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Originally Posted by Ryzorian
They don't pay taxes, sorry, most undocumented are utilized as private contracters..wich are technically responsible for thier own taxes. Wich they don't pay. Many others use stolen ID, forceing others to pay instead. We had that here in my own town, some poor guy in another state was forced to pay taxes even though he didn't live here and never been here. They got it figured out, but the person who was the actuall illigal got away.
The Native American's didn't have a very strong immigration policy..How'd that work out for em?...Oh yea, they are all on reservations.
I'm not going to be that sympathetic about Nafta, Mexico pushed it as much as our own Government. I would sympathize more if they really were just imigrants trying to make a better life in a new country IE "America", as Americans, but they are not. They are lawbreakers, they need to be treated as such.
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Ryozarian, you are simply wrong here.
The Tax Foundation - Immigrants and Taxes
Many illegal immigrants pay up at tax time - USATODAY.com
Do illegal immigrants receive more government benefits than they pay in taxes? | redblueamerica.com
Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/bu...migration.html
Some undocumented workers are "private contractors" but that is not steady work. Those with regular jobs are paying taxes. Those that live in states with sales tax are paying. And they will never see a Social Security check.
Some use stolen ID, but I think you would have a hard time arguing that is a significant number, much lees the majority. Some are drug dealers, murderers and rapists, as well, but these are not terms we can use to talk about the general undocumented population.
You Native American comment is bizarre, as it implies America was a country and the Native population was unified in any way. America was made up of many "nations". The lack of an "immigration policy" was the least of the problems the Native population had when dealing with Western arrivals.
President Clinton has expressed his regrets about NAFTA. Just because what looked like a good idea turned out to be a bad idea is regrettable. Just because Mexico supported it, and then was essentially gutted by American corporations is the reality. Whether or not you feel sympathy doesn't really matter. Take NAFTA away, and the number of illegals goes down. It is that simple. Punish those that hire them, and they go down even more.