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Originally Posted by MMM
Ryozarian, you are simply wrong here.
The Tax Foundation - Immigrants and Taxes
Many illegal immigrants pay up at tax time - USATODAY.com
Do illegal immigrants receive more government benefits than they pay in taxes? | redblueamerica.com
Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/bu...migration.html
Some undocumented workers are "private contractors" but that is not steady work. Those with regular jobs are paying taxes. Those that live in states with sales tax are paying. And they will never see a Social Security check.
Some use stolen ID, but I think you would have a hard time arguing that is a significant number, much lees the majority. Some are drug dealers, murderers and rapists, as well, but these are not terms we can use to talk about the general undocumented population.
You Native American comment is bizarre, as it implies America was a country and the Native population was unified in any way. America was made up of many "nations". The lack of an "immigration policy" was the least of the problems the Native population had when dealing with Western arrivals.
President Clinton has expressed his regrets about NAFTA. Just because what looked like a good idea turned out to be a bad idea is regrettable. Just because Mexico supported it, and then was essentially gutted by American corporations is the reality. Whether or not you feel sympathy doesn't really matter. Take NAFTA away, and the number of illegals goes down. It is that simple. Punish those that hire them, and they go down even more. |
Actually, the vast majority have fake IDs. Some are literally stolen, but for most of them, they buy fake documents with made up numbers on them, but many of those made up numbers are already taken. Thus, even though they didn't literally steal your identity, they are using your social security number, which can end up getting the real owner of that number in a lot of trouble. (And I've also seen times when the real owner of the number turned out to be a criminal and the illegal using the same number was caught by mistake).