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Originally Posted by MMM
Ryozarian, you are simply wrong here.
The Tax Foundation - Immigrants and Taxes
Many illegal immigrants pay up at tax time - USATODAY.com
Do illegal immigrants receive more government benefits than they pay in taxes? | redblueamerica.com
Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/bu...migration.html
Some undocumented workers are "private contractors" but that is not steady work. Those with regular jobs are paying taxes. Those that live in states with sales tax are paying. And they will never see a Social Security check.
Some use stolen ID, but I think you would have a hard time arguing that is a significant number, much lees the majority. Some are drug dealers, murderers and rapists, as well, but these are not terms we can use to talk about the general undocumented population.
You Native American comment is bizarre, as it implies America was a country and the Native population was unified in any way. America was made up of many "nations". The lack of an "immigration policy" was the least of the problems the Native population had when dealing with Western arrivals.
President Clinton has expressed his regrets about NAFTA. Just because what looked like a good idea turned out to be a bad idea is regrettable. Just because Mexico supported it, and then was essentially gutted by American corporations is the reality. Whether or not you feel sympathy doesn't really matter. Take NAFTA away, and the number of illegals goes down. It is that simple. Punish those that hire them, and they go down even more. |
About 60% of illegal aliens work for cash, so they pay no income or social security taxes.
Those who use fraudulent documents to get jobs do get taxes and such deducted from their paychecks, but their pay is generally around minimum wage, so little tax is actually paid.
One problem with illegal aliens using fraudulent documents is that they often use the names and social security numbers of legal citizens. Some people have had issues with credit reporting agencies and the IRS because of illegal aliens have been using their social security numbers.
As a side note, before you begin listing how much illegal aliens "pay" in taxes, you have to subtract the amounts of money spent on the imprisonment, medical care, and education of illegal aliens. In the end, the costs far outweigh the benefits.
If having illegal aliens in the state of Arizona was so profitable, do you really think the people of Arizona would have approved of this law?
Illegal aliens cost the state of Colorado $1.8 billion annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of Illinois $3.5 billion annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of California $10.5 billion annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of Arizona $1.3 billion annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of Nevada $640 million annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of Oregon $830 million annually.
Illegal aliens cost the state of North Carolina $500 million annually.
etc. etc. etc.
The entire cost of illegal immigration to the taxpayers is approximately $246 billion annually. This is approximately 5 times the amount illegal aliens "pay" in federal taxes each year.
When I first began attending university in New Mexico, I had to pay out-of-state tuition rates because I was a legal resident of California. Non-resident tuition rates are quite a bit higher than the regular in-state tuition rates. Ironically, illegal aliens who do not legally reside in any state somehow qualify for in-state tuition. On top of that, since they are considered "minorities", they get placement preference over non-minorities and out-of-state students who are legal citizens.
This simply must stop.