[Paul11]

Originally Posted by MMM

Your wife will be fine for several reasons.
1) She won't be driving (I hope) so they will not be contacting her.

I have fortunately only been pulled over by the police a few times in my life. Every time I have been with a passenger in the car, or have been a passenger in the car, all passengers have been asked to show ID.

2) If she's with you and you're driving, they will probably not contact her. they will be addressing you.

Maybe Oregon is more strict than Arizona (I sort of doubt it), but even as a passenger I have been always asked to show ID.

3) Yes you will be OK with an OR driver's license.

Can you show your source on that?

4) Your wife will be carying her green card or visa to show she's here legally like she's already required to do.

This is EXACTLY what I am talking about.

Why the hell would my American born wife (a natural citizen, born and raised in the US of A) be carrying a green card or visa?

5) All the types of arguments you are raising are perdicated on the idea that cops are Nazis that are going to go postal, grabbing people of the streets. No officer is going to take your wife away without really developing a case worth prosecuting and he's not going to throw away his career, benefits and his own family's livelyhood to take one Ecuadorian off the streets then be sued civily.

No they are not. Thanks for playing the Nazi card, though. Somehow that is in the back pocket of many of the folks that want to defend this.

Even in the simple case I describe, you mistake my wife for a foreigner.

It is a simple paragraph I wrote and you read it in the luxury of your home or office. I'll repeat it:

We are all American born citizens, but my parents and my wife's parents were born in Ecuador.

From there you concluded my wife needs a visa or passport. You called her an Ecuadorian.

Insert rainy late night and a cop sitting at my diver's side window and tell me he can't make the same mistake. This new law not only allows him to take my wife in, IT REQUIRES IT. And if he doesn't the community can SUE HIM for not doing his job.

Ok, you made it soundlike she was ecuadorian. Dude. You are just stubborn and don't listen. You have a cop sitting here telling you it doesn't work that way. telling you from experience. You still persist in going into a fantasy where people are just yanked off the streets. Ok, you've been brainwashed. You keep arguing the point in the face of every explanation of the law, yet it still comes down to some nasty cop abusing you. Ok. Just wait and see and you'll realize nobody will be abused by the arizona law. As a cop, your whole demeanor sounds just rediculous - another histerical citizen who knows nothing about the law and is scared of cops. Alright, dude. Good luck. Time will show you wrong.