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Tsuwabuki,
I agree with you. I don't like how J police do their job when 職務質問 is concerned. I also don't like how the American cops do their job sometimes, they can be quite racist and brutal from time to time. By the way, nobody was convicted in the NY's case where they shot an innocent black guy to death, but this was/is not the debate here. Like you said, it's about whether or not 職務質問 system is 外国人差別. When I brought up the Debito's video, your responses were,

Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki

the police officer feels like he wants to be a douchebag today and decide to determine the legal status of every non ethnic Japanese person that walks by.

Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki

I have never, ever, NOT ONCE seen or heard of a Japanese person being asked to produce ID for no other reason than because they might not be Japanese,

Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki

Is 職務質問 conducted for the sole purpose of determining someone's immigration status? If it is, that's wrong.

And I already responded to all of your points and made clear that 外国人 is not the target most of the time. Again, even an ethnically Japanese cabinet member who was in charge of the Japanese law enforcement got it. Yes, It is a matter of citizen's rights. ALL citizen's rights that is. And I'm just saying making this a matter of 外国人差別 isn't the right way to fight it, even though I agree with the intension.

Originally Posted by Tsuwabuki

I didn't need Debito's video to think that the Japanese process for checking IDs has 外国人差別 elements to it. I thought that already, and I still do, because you've offered me nothing to worry LESS about Japanese police, just examples of why I should worry MORE.

Wait. You think 職務質問 is 外国人差別, and the reason why you think so is not the Debito's video, not your personal experience, not the statics, but because I have offered you "nothing to worry LESS about Japanese police, just examples of why I should worry MORE"? Everything I've offered clearly shows that ALL citizens can be/are subject to 職務質問, and it is a controversy for ALL citizens. OK. I failed to alleviate your fear towards J cops. And because you are afraid of J cops, 職務質問 must be 外国人差別. Is it me or there is a case of prejudice here?

I apologize if I sounded condescending. You may know how Japanese society works pretty well. I just didn't/don't know. My intension was that even if you didn't, and if it resulted in what seemed to be a slanted opinion from my standpoint, I would try not to take it as an offense to the Japanese society or an expression of superiority. Debito is different though. He's been living in Japan for over 20 years, is a Japanese citizen, and is a professor at a Japanese university. When HE presents overly one-sided view, it seems malicious. Seriously, he has a homemade cartoon on his site called "Little Yellow Jap". That's actually not even a question of slanted or one-sided. Sure, he's saying this is sarcasm and all that, but hello? Under WHAT circumstance is that not racist? Under WHAT circumstance is that blatant offense to all ethnically Japanese people in the world allowed? I'm not mad or anything and I still probably agree with a lot of what he wants to do, but just as a matter of fact, he's coming across as a racist himself all right, and I just don't see the merit of doing things like that. He's doing a lot more harm than good, imho.