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08-18-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cranks View Post
No, I am not tone deaf. I don't have my guitar around me right now and I don't have the absolute pitch so I can't tell you exactly what note they are using but Avril can actually be using higher pitch here and there.

Every Japanese phoneme has a vowel and it is a pitch accented language so you'll hear voiced phoneme at relatively consistent pitch almost all the time, while in English, there are a lot less vowels in a sentence and they are pronounced with a more explosive way so they die out quickly. That and the girly accent (going up at the end of a sentence) are probably fooling your brains.

Exactly what part of that video do you find the girl is "affecting high voice"?

P.S.
And who is the lead actress in 誰も知らない? is it "YOU"?
Whoever the mom is. My wife was streaming it earlier; I wasn't really watching it.

And I speak English natively and Japanese pretty well; I assure you my brain is not being fooled.

It's actually absolutely unfathomable to me that someone would deny this phenomenon exists!

And yes, Avril's voice does go higher occasionally when English prosody demands it. But Japanese prosody does not demand a consistently high voice, as regular Japanese girl speech patterns demonstrate. And my conception of "regular Japanese girl" is basically 99% of females I attended university with in Tokyo.

Edit Another example: YouTube - MHFシーズン5.0×ファミ通TV 特番 #1

You can't tell me that's natural.

Edit 2 Apparently academics are researching this topic, so again, I'm not inventing things out of thin air: Japanese language, gender, and ... - Google Books

Edit 3 More research being done: http://global.factiva.com/aa/default.aspx?pp=Print 1 of 2

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