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Originally Posted by OpsNight

I don't want to urge with a mod but i have to in this case

Don't be afraid of disagreeing with a mod as long as you are not breaking the rules.

Originally Posted by OpsNight

MMM do you know how long we the people in north america have to wait for a manga to be officially translated? mainly 1-2 years well the Japanese people have it weekly atleast for some mangas.

I know exactly, as part of my job is doing official translations for manga.
It can be one to two years, or it could be decades (like Black Jack). Or it could be a few months...Some English releases "catch up" with the Japanese ones. There is no one timeline, it depends on the series.

But you would not be waiting for inordinate amounts of time if you weren't stealing in the first place. Your statement implies you are "owed" the material at the same rate it is released in Japan.

Originally Posted by OpsNight

sadly you are wrong on that statement, it was first thanks to manga scanlators that brought mangas to north america in the middle of the 90s, around (1998-1999, 2000).

Manga first started appearing in English in the late 1980's but didn't start picking up steam until the early to mid 90s. (Pre Internet and pre-scanlation). It was surely soon after that scanlators started peddling their wares. but don't pretend that scanlators introduced manga to North America. I was reading Crying Freeman and What's Michael before I even had an e-mail address.

Originally Posted by OpsNight

The work is appreciated by the fans, have you checked the forums of other manga fan sites?

I would not call people who steal manga of the Internet "fans". But I don't think you are quite understanding what I am saying.

These thieves appreciate the work of the scanlators as much as they appreciate the work of the original artists. Since they value the work at the pricetag of $0.00 What appreciation is shown?

As I said in an earlier post, the scanlators are also victims in a way, as it is the sites like One Manga that set up a system where they have scanlator groups doing all the work, but it is One Manga that made money off of it....not the scanlators and not the creators. And look, in a blink of an eye, it is all gone.

Originally Posted by OpsNight

The work of manga scanlators is a lot appreciated by the manga fans in eupore because of these reasons.

1.Finding and buying mangas in eupore is rare, and in most places its impossible.
2.People cant afford to buy mangas, because of the economy downturn which is still ongoing.

3.Only in a few countries in eupore, that mangas are actually selling but not a huge collection of it.

Difficult and impossible are two different things. I do feel for people that have developed a taste for something that doesn't exist in their country...however, that still doesn't make stealing OK or legal.

Have you read the comments from the scanlators when sites like One Manga shut down. Their bubbles have been popped and reality sets in, and they are angry. Instead of feeling like Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, they realize they are the ones who have been stolen from. They are not considered heroes, but disposable slaves who are also anonymous.

Originally Posted by OpsNight

Heres a question for MMM to respond, a quote from somewhere

Will shutting down the comics and manga pirate sites boost sales in the publishing business, or will these efforts just result in alienating manga/comics' most devoted fans?
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I will be waiting for a response.

This is one of the questions that was asked at a panel in digital piracy at Comic-Con this year.

Digital Piracy Panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2010 – July 25, 2010 - Douglas Wolk, Jake Forbes, David Steinberger

It's a good read, I think you will enjoy it.

But to start to answer your question it must be pointed out that the question makes a big assumption: people that use manga pirate sites are manga's biggest fans. I would counter they are manga's worst fans.

But my opinion isn't as valuable as the opinions of the actual creators, though. Read the original ways they would like to see scanlators meet thier untimely demises. It involves cancer, lightning, meteors, etc.

In Japanese:
http://urisuretokauwasatoka.blog134....ntry-1218.html

In English:
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