Quote:
Originally Posted by cranks
Ronin,
Anyway, both of your reasonings are flawed so you should stop supporting anti-whaling activists.
- The fact you don't support factory farming doesn't have anything to do with this argument. The US consumes 10 times more meat than Japan do.
|
Im not on the side of the US. Im on the side of the environmentalists. Thats where you fail to see the variety of arguments on the anti whaling side. Instead of seperating the governments from the environmentalists you lump all the arguments together. The only thing that links the environmentalists and governments that are opposed to whaling is that they want the same thing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cranks
Why do the activists go all the way to the end of the world to protest against whaling that produce only 0.03% of meat, i.e. kill less than 0.03% of lives, the US do?
|
Its more than just about meat.
As I said before. Opening up commercial whaling would make whales extinct. This could have bad consequences on the environment. It almost happened once already.
Furthermore, Whaling occurs in INTERNATIONAL waters. The INTERNATIONAL community has decided that whaling is illegal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cranks
Why don't they sabotage their local slaughterhouse? Why don't Discovery channel air "Cow War" or "Chicken War" or "Pig War", and attack their local farmers? Come on, we are talking about more than 30,000 times the lives here. That's only logical right? The reason is that it is "culturally" more acceptable to kill cows or chickens or pigs than whales in the West, well, more specifically, in the English speaking countries. It IS about whalers versus anti-whalers, and it IS about some western culture versus Japanese culture. It's a crusade against whaling. And crusade is a synonym for racism and massacre in some parts of the world.
|
The culture argument is bullshit. And lets not just say its a Western thing. Countries like Indonesia and Malaysia are against Japan for whaling too... because they recognise the ENVIRONMENTAL impact that commercial whaling would bring.
You want to know why the Discovery Channel made Whale wars? Money...
Quote:
Originally Posted by cranks
The question is, what makes you, or anybody, be the judge on what human race can kill and eat? It's not just about whales. Some people think animals can not be killed, but fish is OK. Some think killing anything that moves is cruel. There are some who think only taking windfalls is appropriate. And there is the extreme. Some think killing bacteria is a sin and refuse to drink water in order to avoid taking the lives of them, and subsequently die. It's all arbitrary. Sure, dolphins are cute and I don't want them to be killed. But you, not Ronin specifically but you in general, don't need to be on a high horse preaching about how your morals is better than others.
|
I can preach that my morals are better than Taiji peoples morals because I can logically argue against it.
The fact is that Dolphins are intelligent animals that have self-awareness. This makes killing them cruel.
Culture is not a defense for barbaric behaviour against logical reasoning.