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Originally Posted by evanny
ronin..when it comes to being ok to kill dumb things, you should be carefull...
everyone is "self aware" ! cut of anybodys legs off - i think they will notice!
and who cares if they are or are not? does that change the fact how they taste or what we make of them? does self aware means that they are able to provide as with information or other usefull things? no.
only thing that animal selfawarnes changes is that nut-jobs like you have something to drive on when makeing usless arguments.
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Useless arguments? Just because you say they are useless doesnt make it so.
Dolphin Self-Recognition Mirrors Our Own: Scientific American
Whale of an issue - Europe - Al Jazeera English
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Georges Chapouthier, a neurobiologist and director of the Emotion Centre at Pierre and Marie Curie University in Paris, said self-awareness means that dolphins and whales, along with some higher primates, can experience not just pain but also suffering.
Unlike nociception, a basic nerve response to harmful stimuli found in all animals, or lower-order pain, "suffering supposes a certain level of cognitive functioning," he said in an interview.
"It is difficult to define what that level is, but there's a lot of data now to suggest some higher mammals have it, including great apes, dolphins and, most likely, whales."
As for intelligence, cetaceans are second only to humans in brain size, once body weight is taken into account.
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By self aware, I mean it has a sense of existence. It knows its alive, can manipulate the world around itself to a certain degree and knows that one day it is going to die.
Most animals dont know this except the ones I mentioned earlier. Instead they survive on pure instinct.