[Ronin4hire]

Im not going to be around in this discussion much longer as judging by the flak MissMisa is getting, it seems we are going around in circles because the whaling/dolphin hunting apologists are not listening.

I just want to say that here is the summary of this discussion

Anti hunters
"Whaling is bad because of X, Y and Z"

Apologists
"But factory farms are bad! and anti whalers are racist!"

Anti hunters
"What the f*ck? Im not a racist! And this has nothing to do with farms. I am against them too!"

Apologists
"This is about culture! You are a Westerner and Westerners have farms!"

Anti hunters
"Culture is not a reasonable defense and I may be a Westerner but we are not all the same!"

At least that is how the discussion has gone thus far. Of course there has been some attempt to address X Y and Z and that is fine but its becoming messy because of all the other shit that is going on.

I am only going to respond to points addressing X Y and Z from now on. Any mention of farms, culture etc I am going to ignore because it is not relevant.

Finally I just want to say to cranks... You USED to be on the anti-whaling side but changed sides because apparently "anti whalers are racist?"

What a cop out. Have your own moral reasons for being against whaling instead of "following the group". It makes me think that the only reason you are defending whaling is because you feel like you are defending Japan. That is really sad because you are becoming a nationalist because of nationalists in the West.