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09-08-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cranks View Post
Eventually, maybe.
Germany?
True, but it's not the same. Germany has a huge military - they don't need U.S. protection. those base are still there to serve U.S. needs as jump points so U.S. can project its power. The bases in Germany as well as others are only there because countries lost the war.

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The US actually even have the control of South Korean military.(戦時作戦統制権) Korean can't even control their own military force if they go into a war. Korean guys are usually very nationalistic, so I would take their word with a grain of salt. I doubt there was no rape case in Korea. I would also like to point out that American military personnel's crime rate is lower than Japanese civilians' average in Okinawa. [\quote]
Maybe Koreans are bios but I'm leaving that there. I've heard of korean protest against U.S. in there country but that was 15~20 years ago.

Bad comparisons. small number of U.S. solders Vs total Okinawan population. By the way, did you know up until 30 years ago a lot of this was note being recorded or cases were found innocent by military courts. One case changed all that, three black solders raping a 15 year old and dumping her for dead in the fields. The military courts tried the three and found them innocent. this time it wasn't only Japanese TV that was watching, but U.S. TV was carrying the news and following the story. The truth wouldn't even be out if it wasn't for this case. This alone is reason enough to take over the bases.


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Under 米軍再編 that is going on right now, America is returning 4 or 5 bases to Japan. For free.[/quote]
Good. I bet they keep at least one as a jump point, forever.

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Yes, China would be happy for sure. How will we defend Senkaku and Okinawa?
What do we do about 33 Chinese nuclear missiles that are pointed at all major Japanese cities?[/quote]
this is were politics comes to play. Let China know that we are removing the U.S. for more stability in the region. But start anything remotely aggressive and see how fast the U.S. will jump at the chance to keep close eyes on China.


"I would pass made in China when it comes to weapons." Me too.


"Somewhat agree. Export of weapons may be crucial to military autonomy." And help tech all around.


"Honestly, I don't find any country in the area I want to side with than the US. Yes, America is not perfect, but most anybody else is a lot worse."
Asia will be the next economic giant if we work together on it.

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Japan has military... It's only Japanese people who say it doesn't. 自衛隊 is not 隊 is a word play which only makes sense with Kanji.[/quote]
I've spoken to white solders station in Japan about this( closing the bases). They felt the Japanese forces are too weak without the bases to fall back on. I believe them. But, we can turn the SDF into a force capable of repelling as well as discouraging attacks.
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