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09-08-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiuchimu View Post
Can you supply me source? What I've found is a bit fishy.
1) crime rate by Solders in Okinawa is less than crime rate of Americans solders anywhere in the world. Sounds odd to me.

2) The data I've seen are Okinawan police only( not including MP records ) and the data is crimes by Solders Vs All crimes. That includes foreigners that aren't solders and I know that Okinawa tourism has gone up in the last thirty years.

It's a fact that 30 years ago a mockery of the law and judicial process was being committed by the solders and military courts in Japan and the Japanese government could do anything about it. Same stuff happened in the Philippines were local police were told to look the other way in the red light districts. What's the likely hood that any of this has really stopped? their is 50,000 solders and they mostly hang around the area close to the bases. It wouldn't be too hard to make good P.R. for this group. I wouldn't be surprised if the Okinawan police were told to layoff and let the MP's handle it. Of course I have no proof, but I'm a skeptical when the data is too rosy and doesn't match the norm.


2~3 weeks ago another attempted rape happened.
Here you are.
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/lovelovedog/20080218/beihei
You can still make an argument on the exact rate, but one thing for sure is that the average of American military personnel is not that much worse than the average of Japanese people in Okinawa even in the worst case scenario.

Many rape cases by 自衛官 are happening everywhere too. Including in 沖縄.
自衛官 強姦 の - Google Search

A military force needs to keep its autonomy, otherwise it can't do its job. 自衛隊 holds the same kind of autonomy when it goes abroad. That Japan does its own defense is nice. But it NEEDS to BE ABLE to do it. With the US withdrawing, China is already coming.
http://www.jiji.com/jc/zc?k=201009/2...15&rel=j&g=soc

Unlike many people believe, the attack wouldn't start with bombing of Okinawa. It will start as "fishing boats" coming into the area, and they'll send some "guards" to protect these "fishing boats" in what they claim is their territory. China is doing it in Indonesia too.
インドネシア領ナトゥナ諸島 ラウト島 - Google Search

China is also taking full control of 南沙諸島 with pretty much the same tactics after the US military withdrew from Philippine.
http://www.recordchina.co.jp/group.php?groupid=38700

The issue is not the US not wanting to withdraw from Okinawa. It's doing it. It's Japanese absurd military policy that is making the area unstable. Japan doesn't need to physically increase its military force, but it needs to be able to actually use it, and that has nothing to do with the US. Actually, the US WANTS Japan to take on more military responsibilities. I believe the problem lies mainly in Japanese politics.
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