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09-17-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazikeen View Post
No, see, this is where you're wrong. He's entitled to his opinion, until it disrupts the discussion. His idea of strengthening his stance is to point out every little mistake the US ever committed. Which is no way to have a little chit-chat about the US forces in Japan and the idea to remove them.
Everyones guilty of that. I'm the OP of this thread. My post was about "if Japan buys the bases from U.S. "
That's already assuming many things. Like the constitution is amended, the people voted in that direction, to buy from the U.S. implies that the U.S. has reach an agreement too.


Next, I posted my opinions on the benefits.
1) U.S. and japan are still allies but U.S. ability to apply political pressure on Japan is far Less.

2) US military is out of Japan making it easier for Japan - China- Russian relations, I think it will help US-China relations as well since China won't have U.S. forces close by, except in DMZ.

3) Japan has a military able to defend itself. No explanation needed.

4) Japan can purchase military hardware from anyone not just the U.S. Further more the military can be built towards what we think we will need not along U.S. interests.

4) Japan can develop some military technology. Like the U.S. this will help private business develop and compete. Sales of weapons will help offset military costs.

5) With self defense of the table, Japan can negotiate with America on a more equal level. After all, America's enemies don't have to be Japan's enemies. And American agenda need not be Japan's agenda. When we agree, we can work with each other, but it will be truly voluntary. No more side-ing with the U.S. simply because we need military protection or we need the market shares. In The end, I think it will make US-Japan better allies since it will be a partnership forged of freewill rather than reliance.

Very few have argued on any of the above five points. Instead, most are focusing in on the following arguments:
1) Japanese people don't want it
2) WW2, Japan can't be trusted with a military
3) constitution forbids having a military.
4) Japanese military won't be strong enough to fight of China anyway.

I would prefer it also if people stuck to my original 5 debate points.


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