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Originally Posted by steven
While I'm not trying to defend any of that stuff, one people get the power to censor a little bit they seem to want to keep on going.
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What is the basis for this statement. You steal from me. I want you to stop stealing from me. What is being proposed, if I am reading it correctly, is not religiously or politically motivated. Stop stealing and I am done.
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And who's to say what is illegal or not? There are certain people who take their morals and try to spread it on everyone else... I think that's what this will boil down to. I think a law like this will be misused by any government.
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Who is to say what is illegal or not? A child could answer this question. If you take something that doesn't belong to you and give it (or sell it) to someone else, it is illegal.
It has nothing to do with morals.
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With websites like google and youtube and wikipedia and things like that you get a lot of statistical data. I could imagine programs being made that could search for certain words or phrases in that data and link it back to certain websites or people and having certain things erased or changed automatically without even a human being touching it. The internet is so huge that I could imagine that kind of automation being used, which would damage a lot of what the internet has going for it. It could just be me overthinking it though... at any rate, while I'd like to see certain things gone, I could see how removing one thing on the internet could create a snowball effect that could result in the removal of more and more stuff.
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Wikipedia, Google and YouTube are not government agencies. They are businesses. Things being changed and erased on Wiki is a problem now. That's what happens when there is no clean "source".
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As far as torrents go... I think we all know that most of it is bad. I think certain companies purposely put infected data and faulty programs on those websites though making a risk that a lot of people don't want to take.
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Torrents are bad because they are illegal intellectual property infringement, or because they are infested with viruses?
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While I may sound like an idiot for saying this, I'm sick of programs being too oversafe about piracy.
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Have you ever made something that has been stolen?
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This is bad for legit customers as sometimes programs just don't work. I've been there and done that... pirated programs work better in that sense because you can get through all that BS. And when you contact these companies about real problems with their software they put you through all kinds of flaming hoops when you need help from their supposed "all star service" or whatever the hell they claim they have. It's kind of a catch 22. You can get software legitamately and risk it not working, or you can get it pirated and have it all cracked and easy to use (which will make them that much stricter about it). You can always buy the software and get the pirated version that actually runs when you tell it to. Ironically, I've bought a music CD made by Sony and there was some kinda funky anti-piracy program in it that made it impossible to burn onto my computer. It's a shame I couldn't load that music onto my Sony MP3 player  . |
Sony dumped that anti-piracy CD program weeks after enacting it about 5 years ago. That was before MP3 players were really something.
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Originally Posted by steven
I think this is a great topic of debate though. This looks like media companies trying to protect the share of the pie that they have, which is slowly being picked away at. I think itunes and things like that might have something to do with it... youtube does as well. Common people now have a chance at producing their own stuff and selling it/providing it at their own will. The internet allows basically unlimited distribution. With the technology that has been created in the late 90's up through the 2000's all that was left for the indpendent folks was a way to distribute (which is what those companies helped with). With digital transfer that isn't really an issue any more.
I've never seen them in America before (I haven't been there in 2 years), but in Japan I've seen a lot of TV/Computers lately. With digital TV coming into play soon over here, I don't see the point in buying a new TV when I could buy a computer/TV for the same price or less. With that I could watch Youtube and stuff on my TV as well. I think this is what we're talking about. The internet is gonna be making its way into our livingrooms. Some people aren't comfortable with that idea for moral reasons and some people aren't comfortable with that because people are taking some bites out of their bigass piece of pie.
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What is the moral objection to Internet in the living room?