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09-30-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
You are giving categorically the worst advice I have ever seen on JF, including the people who do incorrect translations.

1. if you get left behind in a university language class, you probably have no ability to learn the language anyway—they do not move too fast; if anything, they do not push students enough. I spent four years in one of the best Japanese undergrad programs in the US (including one year in Japan) and still did not graduate fluent.

2. So you should value your GPA over actually learning something? Got it. If I had listened to such advice, I'd have graduated with a 4.0 and have worse Japanese than I have now rather than a 3.8 and an upper-advanced level of Japanese knowledge.

3. If you don't take classes, your self-study will be so informal as to be almost worthless. I suppose if you polled the people here, you'd find the best speakers all studied Japanese at university (or were born in Japan). The least skilled are the ones who have read a few websites or watched some anime on their own.
Prickly, are we?

Beats me how they do language studies down there, but I've seen a ton of people drop out or do pretty badly up here.

Great to hear that you can pick up Japanese well. However, some people really do value their GPA over their proficiency in a language - but that depends on your major and specialist degrees.

As for "self-study", I don't recall saying such. I'm merely expressing the advantage of taking classes outside of university, or other such - places where you can learn without much pressure. It's awesome if you can take such a course over the summer at your local cultural center.
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