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Originally Posted by steven
I'm a little confused at the end-ish area of your post though. Are you saying that a Hostess club involves longer skirts than a snack? Like it's in that sense "higher class"? That sounds like it would fall in line with what my wife said. I'm kind of assuming "longer skirt"= "higher class" as well as the fact that you were talking about "hostess clubs" at teh end of your post though.
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I was giving an example, really, and not pointing to anything specific. I certainly didn`t mean the skirts thing
literally! I was trying to point out that something that may have been considered pretty risqué back in it`s day is totally tame now. At a certain point in time showing ankles was taboo - now (in a world where mini-skirts are totally normal), it means nothing.
In a world of hyper-seduction hostess bars, the flirting in a snack bar seems like
nothing. An easy way to make this clear - I have friends who work/worked in snacks, and some who have worked in hostess bars. (It`s easy to get this information out of them as my mother worked in the US both as an "escort" and in what would be considered a "snack" by Japanese standards.
In the snack, flirting is the norm. Maybe receiving gifts is the norm. But there is no expectation of SEX after it. The men (except for weird exceptions) know the bounds, and it`s not all that uncommon for them to really care about the life of the woman, her kids, etc. The guys are usually friends with each other, and women are also welcome - more like strongly welcomed, to lighten up the atmosphere.
In a hostess bar, the gifts and dates are aiming for sex. It`s like gambling - how much money has to go in before she puts out? I`ll "win" by scoring with her before the other guys do... etc. The girls ARE expected to let some guys "win", or at least get very very close to lead them on for more and more money. They set internal secret "rules" - ie. No penetration until over 3000万, etc. The other men are competitors, rivals, enemies. Bring a woman in? You`ve got to be kidding.