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Originally Posted by MMM
I am sorry, that is your mission. I cannot recommend anything that has helped me.
I don't think Nietzsche really applies here, because you are assuming people in Japan are committing suicide because their lives have no meaning. I think suicides in Japan happen for other reasons.
I am sure a book could be written to answer that question. You wouldn't assume all cultures see life and death the same way, would you?
To say Buddhism and Shinto were partially the cause of why Japanese have a high suicide rate makes as much sense as saying seaweed and chopsticks are also partially to blame. You are barking up the wrong tree.
Their lives, meaning who? Japanese people? I wish you the best, but really, get educated. If you start talking about how Shinto, the most innocuous and peaceful way of thinking I have ever experienced, has anything to do with why people commit suicide you are not going to get many people to listen to you. You have a long and difficult path ahead, but I hope you are up for it.
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From your response here is what I believe that you think I believe
:
A. That Buddhism and Shintoism are factors involved in the role of suicide.
B. That I believe people are committing suicide because they have no meaning.
A. I would say yes, now follow my argument:
1. Religion shapes a culture and how it thinks about and views the world.
2. Reasons to commit suicide are based on one's culture and how one views the world.
3. Buddhism and Shintoism have shaped Japanese culture and how it views the world.
4. Therefore Buddhism and Shintoism have some basis in their reason to commit suicide.
I think your assuming that I think its a direct cause. But just because its not a direct cause doesn't mean it isn't an
indirect cause. Or that it is not
necessary condition for other causes.
1. Billy dropped the vase and it broke
2. For the vase to drop
and to break there must be gravity
3. Billy was the cause of the vase breaking
4. Gravity was the necessary condition for Billy to cause the breaking.
B. I do not believe that is the only reason, obviously its not that simple
Im not here to debate logic and reason, and the origin of ideas.
Rather you did mention that you believed that there are other reasons that are the cause for it. Would you mind stating them concisely? Or is that my mission alone to find out?