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Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

From your response here is what I believe that you think I believe :
A. That Buddhism and Shintoism are factors involved in the role of suicide.
B. That I believe people are committing suicide because they have no meaning.

I will indulge you one last time. After this you are on your own.

Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

A. I would say yes, now follow my argument:

Here we go.
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Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

1. Religion shapes a culture and how it thinks about and views the world.

Not true in Japan. There is no religious movement that shapes the Japanese culture. It may be hard to believe from a culture that is dominated by religious thinking, but what can I tell you? That's not the world.

Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

2. Reasons to commit suicide are based on one's culture and how one views the world.

This is really too open a statement to respond to. I have no idea if this is true or not.

Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

3. Buddhism and Shintoism have shaped Japanese culture and how it views the world.

Ask a modern-day Japanese person if they think this statement is true.

Have you read a word I have written? This is pound for pound the most agnostic Asian country you are going to find. So you want to blame Buddhism and Shinto? I cannot tell you how wrong you are without using profanity.

Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

4. Therefore Buddhism and Shintoism have some basis in their reason to commit suicide.

You are officially off the scales. This is probably the most uneducated statement I have ever read on this site.

Originally Posted by Kelvindegrez

I think your assuming that I think its a direct cause. But just because its not a direct cause doesn't mean it isn't an indirect cause. Or that it is not necessary condition for other causes.

1. Billy dropped the vase and it broke
2. For the vase to drop and to break there must be gravity
3. Billy was the cause of the vase breaking
4. Gravity was the necessary condition for Billy to cause the breaking.

B. I do not believe that is the only reason, obviously its not that simple


Im not here to debate logic and reason, and the origin of ideas.

Rather you did mention that you believed that there are other reasons that are the cause for it. Would you mind stating them concisely? Or is that my mission alone to find out?

You are so off the scales, I can't even begin.