[Ryzorian]

Marxism is just a sorry excuse for a few educated elites to use the un educated masses to ged rid of the middle class, the only group that really threatens the upper class elites. A strong Middle class is what makes western governments strong.

The whole Marxist ideal doesn't work in reality because human nature disallows for such a theory to ever work beyond a book. Karl's ideal would require everyone to be selfless, while some people have shown great acts of selfless behavior, humanity as a whole is a selfcentered beast and allways has been.

China is trying to creat a middle class through controled capitolism while maintaining a dictatorship. It won't happen if they really build a true middle class because a middle class that thinks for itself invaribly ends up democratic if not out right republic.