[bluejeanslady]

Originally Posted by GoNative

The protest in Germany was against the nuclear industry in Germany. It's starting to make sense now though isn't it? You have an extremely strong anti-nuclear lobby in Germany who are using the disaster in Japan for their own political ends. They are blowing the Japan event all out of proportion to further their own aims. I was wondering why Germany seemed to be getting such unbalanced information. Now it makes sense.

yes of course the things which in fukushima happened are changing here in germany the complete political direction today and this will go on - i think in future we will have a red-green governement ... thanks god we are able to learn very quick from the mistakes which are done ...even the romans didnt get the germans we are super people in that country .. and over this 8 old atom reactors are switched off the last week ... thats the best decision, but it will cost 10 years to get them really off now and cost 1,5 billion euro for each one ... so we make in this country the best decision we can do : get out of this horror and go to a green harmless energy complete ... only this is the right decision ...

over this i hope that the people in the 30 km zone are really not radiated .. but in next time we will hear about that ... in next time we will hear about the hole truth and i think you have to change your opinion complete ... wait and see ...

at moment the disaster is going on and it will stay the next 15 years our all problem worldwide ... you will see ... thats what the specialist worldwide say now ...

i donnot know where you get your information, we have other information here in our country ... and we are not hysteric but we are very critically .. and this is very good ...

and over this, today they excused that they have given wrong information and wrong measure results .. i donnot believe that those people can manage a burger shop than an atomic parc and solve such a problem ... they are completely unable and they have to give the job to people who are able ... and this is the problem, they are the wrong people to save the situation there ...

Originally Posted by tenmins

I heard that in Germany solar panels are highly encouraged with very good rebates and a great rate of payment for people who generate excess power and pump it back into the grid.
If every building had solar panels on the roof, would that be enough to power the whole country? Probably would in summer, but how would they go in winter?

it is always the same, if you power an industry with input they will get high and good results .. up to now the green energy here is growing consequente but it was not pushed ... now our political situation is changing and therefore it will be pushed .. i am very glad to live in a country who learns about mistakes and try to make it better in future .. it is a first step in the right direction ... and we all hope that the others around us will do the same decision ... a green europe would be a good way, but if this will happen we must see ... maybe we can make that proof that it will work and if the others see that, they make it similar .. but this is a long way of course ... the first step is very important ... you can ignore the danger of nuclear of course and everything is o.k., but you see, if there is an accident, then it is a really big and long-lasting problem ... and that the energy price is low with nuclear energy is a lie, the price for energy is growing up every year ... therefore, lets try with green energy ... why not ... its not dangerous ... and we have possibilities, not only solar, we have a lot of water and wind and other possibilities ... here in our country we have a lot of projects which work very good ... to bring the hole country to green energy will need a few years but it is possible ... if you donnot try sth. you will never bring it to work ...

Originally Posted by GoNative

The protest in Germany was against the nuclear industry in Germany. It's starting to make sense now though isn't it? You have an extremely strong anti-nuclear lobby in Germany who are using the disaster in Japan for their own political ends. They are blowing the Japan event all out of proportion to further their own aims. I was wondering why Germany seemed to be getting such unbalanced information. Now it makes sense.

we are not using anything ... the nuclear catatrophy in fukushima is a fact !!!! ... and its a really big reason to think about ... at it is normal to learn from mistakes ... normally people do that ... therefore i see that you have a problem to accept .. do you mean the germans are mad ? who you are ? ... we are learnable, thats all .. the discussion of the danger of nuclear energy is since chernobyl in germany .. now the second bad accident is happening .. that is more than one reason to think about ... and its really a good decision to change that energy politic now ... we donnot want such a nuclear accident here ... thats all .. its the decision of 80% of our population here and we are a democratic system .. so the people decide ... in our country it is that way ... .. its your decision if you ignore those, you can do what you like to do ... we say NO to such a danger in our country .. its the first time since 30 years i am really proud of that to live in germany ...

by the way: do you not realise that it makes no sense to discuss with s.o. like me, who is complete against atom energy and nuclear experiments ... this doesnt make any sense ... you have no arguments which would change my mind ... for me you are from another planet with your opinion ... i am complete green in my mind ... good healty food and a better world without that risks ... i donnot need energy, i can sit the half day with a candle, that is no problem for me, why not ...

Originally Posted by Nyororin

Direct and personal insults after being warned about it, for one. I gave the final warning on that - bluejeanslady has refrained from direct and personal attacks.

(Another user did not, and get a short time out)

Simply posting something that most everyone here does not agree with is not, alone, enough to get her banned. She doesn`t appear to be trolling, and the insults she has tossed out have been in response to pretty direct insults in her direction.

i only speak about the topic and if s.b. has another opinion i have no problem with .. but if sb attacks me i attacked backat the beginnnig, now i have stopped to do that ...and everything is o.k. ... i realised that here are some men who are pro nuclear - i am against .. two meanings .. but they should to attack me .. you see, they continue that behavior ... thats poor ...

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

i only speak about the topic and if s.b. has another opinion i have no problem with .. but if sb attacks me i attacked backat the beginnnig, now i have stopped to do that ...and everything is o.k. ... i realised that here are some men who are pro nuclear - i am against .. two meanings .. but they should to attack me .. you see, they continue that behavior ... thats poor ...

..should stop to attack me ... (thats what i meant of course )

Originally Posted by GoNative

Words are easy when you are a nobody on the internet. Words are not so easy when you are the Chief Scientific Advisor for the UK and are advising ex-pats living in Tokyo about the situation. In such a role your words carry a lot of responsibility and would be carefully chosen based on the best scientific advice available. When will you finally realise that the sources of information you are using are totally and completely innacurate??

of course its your decision to believe in that people - i donnot do this .. this is my decision ... what is your problem ? ... you make your thing and i make my thing ... we are a free world ...