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Originally Posted by Ryzorian
Ronin; Yes I have talked to Vietnam vets, they won every major engagement includeing the so called "Tet offensive". They were boged down by stupid rules of engagement...can't attack enemy convoys that aren't on the road, can't attack enemy troops inside ruins and temples, can't do this, can't do that. The whole thing was a joke. That's the biggest reason many are bitter, the govermnet wouldn't allow them to WIN.
No Ronin, China and Russia did not have Nukes right after ww2..only the US did. Russia didn't develope one until 1949, China was much later than that. Sure they have some now, however our anti missle system is far more capable than you realize. It's partly why we get upset when North Korea tests fires missles. We dont want to have to reveal how well our system works. No, it isn't the Patriot, that was never an anti missle system, it's actually an anti aircraft battery.
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I wasn't talking about right after WW2. I was talking about Russia and China during Vietnam.
And sure.. the vets were/are bitter because of that too.. but you said that they dominated. They didn't. In fact most vets I've spoken to are more bitter about how they were in a place which was halfway accross the world, dying to protect people that didn't seem to want protecting.
Whatever you think of those rules of engagement, they were put in place so that they could accomplish that mission. (They still f*cked up though and managed to kill many civilians despite those rules of engagement being in place.)
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I understand war Ronin; Destroy the enemy's will to fight by what ever means are required.
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lol.. that's not wrong of course... but that's only one of many things that must be understood in war. You have to know who your enemy is and how they work before you can destroy the enemies will to fight.
It's like a paragraph in Sun Tzu.
If you want to understand war I think you should read that book.
You will understand why America lost and Vietnam won.