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05-20-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinestra View Post

Its rational to her its not up nor I to decide if she is being rational about her feelings on the matter. She is not a Americans citizen of course her feelings would differ from people like MMM and I. Its obvious she thought he was a bad guy and she doesn't care that he didn't get a trail because he died in the same fashion that he lived violently but shes not going to loose sleep over it. I see nothing wrong with her position.
You see nothing wrong with your position? Are you oblivious to pretty much the entire foundation of the Western legal system and Western philosophy?

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Again and i will not change my position on this because i feel VERY strongly about it. He was an enemy commander and combatant. If there was no way to take him alive and his action put any of the SEALS at risk he was treated as an enemy in a time of war. No we don't know all the details and we probably never will. I would have liked to see a trial but if his killing was unavoidable then so be it. I refuse to sadden that a guy who has no problem killing thousands of "civilians" to accomplish his goal in the name of his warped idea of Islam.
Um.. I agree with you there.

But you said earlier

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"Not to be mean but anyone who thinks Osama would have allowed himself to be taken alive well you are more naive than i ever thought possible and it must be nice to see the world through your eyes."
THAT is where you're being presumptuous.

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Im not presumptuous. All im saying is that the aid we give them should be pulled till a through investigation can be conducted. If there is no evidence to support that no one in the upper ranks of the Pakistani government knew he was there then aid shall be returned. However, the location his compound was built in is a well to do area and the cost of the construction alone was in the millions. Im sorry someone knew maybe not in the upper ranks but someone did. Im not accusing them of anything but if your roof has a leak in you find the leak and plug it not sit and wait for a leak to cave your roof in.
An investigation is a good idea. But I don't know if it's in America's best interest to cut off aid (at least in the context of pursuing the war in Afghanistan.. which I think America's best interests would be to cut and run)

The aid in Pakistan is essential to the war in Afghanistan. Without Pakistan's help.. the war would probably be a lot more costly, not only in economic terms but in terms of human life.

Worst case scenario.. Pakistan's nuclear weapons get into the wrong hands.

Without the aid... Pakistan would probably descend into chaos.

So you see.. the Americans are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do you discontinue aid to the guys who you need to pursue this conflict in Afghanistan? Or do you continue working with the guys whom some of which are secretly working with the enemy?
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