[tangomike]

alright yes, i went off topic with the Yayoi. it doesnt directly apply to Isreal.

are you saying war ISNT a a legit way to aquire land? it is but not common anymore, Isreal is the best example of how force created their nation.

With globalisation you dont ahve one country invading another without another a variety of other nations supporting each side. They are just looking out for their interests that the nation in question can offer them, or the alternative is just not desirable period. case in point what the USA did and does all over the world. As a result it gets way to messy when you want to fight someone. too many other countries stand in your way so war isnt viable anymore...unless there were a mass agreement that someone should be destroyed (the 3rd Reich)


Isreal BOUGHT its land from Palestine before 1948. Yes, they bought it fair and square. Then they declared independance and were able to fight off the surrounding Arab states to the present day. They have a strong army and nukes, and their neighbors dont like it but what can they do? they are stronger AT THE MOMENT. the strong win. Its about who is strong enough to hold and occupy that land not who lays claim to it historically. if you cant see that you are blind. in this case isreal is strong enough because of US/European support from 1948 onwards as well as their own determination to defend themselves. If they are able to militariliy hold their ground, Nobody has the right to say they dont deserve to be there. Any way you look at Isreal, they took their land by war and they currenlty hold it, making it theirs.

America started like Isreal, we were once subjects to Britian....but we revolted much like the Isrealis did against Palestine and we BEAT the British...and created our own nation. How is that different from what Isreal is doing? furthermore they have support from outside.

Alright tell me how darwinisn is bogus with the human population of this world? I think you think I believe that military strength= superiority. no. granted we do not exterminate the people conquered like animals and planets....its more human darwinism is more like having a throne that only one nation can occupy and nations are squabbling over it. Whoever occupied the throne before you, all of his achievments will became a part of your....just stacking up on each other in slow (often selfish and unequal) progress. The British were the 1st people to have a world wide empire, followed by America who does it in an economic fashion....we also have Army Garrisions in every country on the planet..whats does that imply about our strength and our influence?

We are far more complex than plants or animals. There are a multitude of other ways that humans can be 'superior' than other humans. One an individual level one can be more attractive, wealthier, more intelligent, witty, physically strong.....one a nation wide level its having political advantages over others (why do u think Tony Blair was such brown noser), natural resources, buying power, military strength etc that say, "u cant mess with us cus if you take us out your economy fails' or simpley cus we have to massive an army to fight. At the moment (which is soon to end) America's cultural imperialism spreads far around the world. How else do people in India know who Drew Barrymore is, know that California is awesome or so many people on earth speak English? Why do people in Hong Kong have names like Rick Lee, or Chuck Fong? cultural imperialism. soon China will take the throne from the USA and cultural imperialism will follow. You see it already with an increase in Chinese speakrs and ppl studying Chinese, getting ready for the big shift.