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Originally Posted by evanny
KyleGoetz, good points. thanks.
but don't you think a non-native can achieve "native like" levels of speaking? i think for that to happen simply the environment has to change. give an educated person who takes in new things easily 5 or even 10 years in desired language's society and there won't be anyone left to tell whether or not the person is native.
don't you think?
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Native like, but not to the point where they can achieve my ability to explain the difference between certain high-level words. Or I'll put it another way: the non-natives who
can achieve something remotely like what I as an educated native can do would not be affordable. In any case, there is a reason the best universities in the world have native speakers teaching the languages rather than non-natives.
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however this also presents the problem - the person might start making native speaking average Joe's mistakes because of that. well if not paying close attention the whole time.
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And you think non-natives make fewer mistakes while speaking than natives? That's pretty much by definition impossible.