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06-23-2011, 02:33 AM

Isn't the number of, for example Americans with degrees quite low? I read somewhere that it was around the 25% mark? Don't remember where I saw it exactly, but that seems to be the trend among some countries.

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery View Post
I wholeheartedly agree with it. There's just no way to be able to grasp a scope of how beneficial it is to have that kind of limitation. You can just see how many other nations are going to the dumps, including the US, because there's zero regulation.

I may complain sometimes that I have to go through a lot of extra red tape being a foreigner in Japan, but at the end of the day, it's not about me, but the whole society.

If people are going to complain about how their "dreams" of moving to Japan are being crushed because they don't have a degree, then they don't have what it takes to be here in the first place.
Yes, everything you said I fully agree with. Especially the point about other countries with less regulation. There's just no denying it.

It's just a relief that (so far) Japan hasn't buckled to population pressures to throw the floodgates open to everyone...

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I really don`t see the reasons behind the negativity toward the degree requirement. I find no negatives in receiving more education. (And it isn`t as if they`re asking for a degree from a prestigious school. As long as it`s accredited, anywhere will do!)
Exactly, I think it's just because another 4 years of education is shock, horror and gasp, and just too much work for most people to think about. But as Wings said, these people probably won't get anywhere close to living in Japan. It's just annoying that they seem to be the one cluttering up forums and such.

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In most cases that is true, but I`ve seen adults who have been out of school for years complaining about how they absolutely did NOT want to go to university. They were willing to explore any other route to get into Japan, even when it took just as long or longer.

Or the people who are graduating and want to go to Japan in 5 years... Have an independent language study course all thought up, have a plan for saving all the money for an extended trip, and are hunting for loopholes so that they could live in the country... but the idea of attending university during that time so that they can actually stay legally is strangely unthinkable.

Those sort of things are what I was referring to. (If you go back through the threads about moving to Japan, you`ll find numerous examples of these.)



You need a degree to get the visa that would allow you to get a job in Japan. Natives don`t need one as they don`t need a visa.
Heh, if they put as much effort into getting a degree as they did trying to find loopholes to avoid it, they'd probably be more than qualified.
It's probably because they find planning things such as funds, language options and such more fun than buckling down to work.
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