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Originally Posted by RealJames
That's a good point.
I agree Bachelors are often overrated also.
The problem is quantifying it, Bachelors are easy, tangible even.
Apprenticeships are difficult to show and validate and I know of no internationally accredited apprenticeship institutions.
The semantics of legal and social systems are a bad fit for real life.
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Thats very true James. And this is exactly the Problem with apprenticeships around the World.
For example, here in Germany it's the most common thing to do for the majority of young people and if you don't have one, then you count as a laborer everywhere you go. But when you look overseas, like Japan for example most countries do not even have something like an apprenticeship or can't define one.
It takes 3 1/2 years for us to archive one, with school and everything around it. I think it's a huge step in life and should be acknowledged around the World.
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Originally Posted by acjama
Exactly how does formal education remove or prevent "life experience" from people?
I hear the same claims all over again, all over the world. They are all identical, and that is suspicious to say the least. Nobody doesn't seem to be willing to explain how a non-educated person's "life experience" might be in any way greater than a student's of similar age, and that has led me to the conclusion that this idea is not their own, just copy&pasted from somebody.
This might be a little harsh to say out loud, but employers will always choose the one with knowledge and possible contacts of the field and concrete proof of a desire to improve oneself, rather than the one who simply claims undefined "life experience", most likely from a completely irrelevant field.
Sorry to be so confrontational, but I believe my point is valid. Everybody is born equal, but after that, those who work hard for their future should have more than those who just expect automatic rewards. And yes, your "hard work" is defined as such by others only, not you yourself.
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The only thing what counts in this World is evidence you are correct here. Experience in all kind of fields means nothing if you haven't the graduation to actually prove it. School and University is great and you will learn what you choose, but it doesn't get much further then that. When you choose to study the English language, then you will study the English language.. but it won't help you to get around in this World with a 3 year Bachelors degree or give you any Life Experience sitting in full class room and reading English novels.
Life-Experience is something you can only get when you move around, do all kinds of Jobs, travel in all kinds of countries and perhaps study aboard.. far away from your actual home and beloved ones. Travel to countries where your mother tongue isn't the first language for example, away from your close friends and try to get along there by your own.
Attending the school of Life is what I mean!!
Like Kintaro Oe
Kintaro, despite having met the requirements for a law degree, left Tokyo University without graduating. Golden Boy depicts his living the life of a free spirit, roaming Japan from town to town, job to job. During his travels, Kintaro meets several women whose lives he dramatically changes, despite poor first impressions. He constantly observes and studies the people and events around him, recording his findings in a notebook he carries on his belt.