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07-04-2011, 12:38 AM

I don`t recall being nasty and rude in my original post - just providing information as you`re not the first, nor will you be the last, person to think that being a mangaka is going to be a walk in the park.

But, well, if you want to be nasty and snappy in my direction...

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Originally Posted by potatoxpotato View Post
At the "weeaboo" thing, I'm surprised you're even talking considering you're on a Japan Forum. And, it's weaboo*.
Some of us, as shocking and surprising as it may be to you, actually have connections to Japan that go beyond or totally circumvent an obsession with the country. For example - people who actually live in Japan.

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Firstly, did I say CG? I meant Tones. Caught me there. Now you know what I'm talking about, correct?
So... You are able to tone a complete page, alone, by hand, in an hour or less?

That is amazing. I would LOVE to see this demonstrated in real time.

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Second; That's just obvious. You can't draw whatever you want. It's business. That doesn't change anything.
It does change things because there are other people involved in the production process. You are not free to work on the schedule you would like to have, and you are also not free to just take the story line wherever you would like. This adds TIME. If you have to wait for approval on a rough draft, then wait for approval on a second draft, then wait for instructions on what to change in a final draft - that is all TIME that adds up. Even if you are truly as amazingly skilled and quick as you boast, that is still time where you have to wait while doing nothing... And a much much smaller time frame in which to finish/

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Thirdly: You act like it's the end of the world if I don't have an assistant and supplies are IMPOSSIBLE. Look, I don't need an assistant slowing me down. In the beginning, I'm doing a lot of it by myself, which isn't easy, but I hope you don't honestly believe I would sit there all day and relax and money would come flying into my lap the next day. If you seriously believe that working hard is impossible, you need a job ^-^ Also, a huge "chunk of money"? I can get "special" A4 paper, copic ink pens, some coloring utensils and tone and typing sheets for under $100. My friend who's also wanting to be a mangaka has a tablet and Sai. You're just dramatizing it now. Goodness, you make me laugh.
Because supplies cost money in Japan, and there are specific requirements for the supplies that have to be used for the majority of publishers... I make you laugh?

Umm... Okay.

As for assistants and "working hard"... I will quote your original post;
"just 3 pages a day, which, honestly for me is 15 min storyboard, 30 min sketching, 30 min inking and an hour adding computer graphics-- about 2 hours x 3 is 6 or 7 hours of work, about a normal workday right?"

The average time per page for someone without an assistant is said to be 10 to 12 hours. Popular mangaka, who are popular for a reason, spend 10+ hours on each page WITH assistants. You pretty much are saying that you`re so skilled and fast that you pretty much WILL be just whipping those pages off and money will come pouring in.

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Moving on, this is where you start assuming things. Considering I just proved all the nonsense you insisted on above, the job is tough but still pays well.
I haven`t noticed anything that has been proven to be nonsense...?

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When I say "multiple mangas" you assume in the same magazine. Different magazines, kid.
Umm, licensing, "kid".

When you publish in a magazine, you sign a contract with them. Any work you produce during the time you are under contract belongs to them, and you are barred from publishing it elsewhere. You cannot just hop over to another magazine and start publishing there also. You can get VERY VERY lucky and have a second bit in a different magazine by the same parent company, but that is almost always a one shot by an established and well known artist.

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And then you assume I'm perfect in Japanese and I'm going to publish my amazing works across the world! That's just a dream, my friend.
To be honest, I have no reason to assume that anyone is either fluent or not in Japanese. It isn`t as if the language is impossible - if I`d made the assumption that you couldn`t speak Japanese, I would be just as likely that you would snap at me for assuming you couldn`t write in the language.

I`m glad that you recognize this as a dream. You certainly wouldn`t have been the first person to think that they could write a manga and have it published overnight in Japan, bringing them fame, fortune, and Japanese citizenship.

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Ever heard of OEL manga?
Actually, no. I had never heard of OEL manga before this reference to it.
I doubt most people in Japan have.

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Yup, and where you said all Japanese magazines are weekly is not only bogus but also totally irrelevant at this point.
"Bogus" - I do not think this word means what you think it does. What I would have said would have to have been a lie.

You said "20 pages per magazine". 20 pages per segment is a weekly magazine. Those that publish less frequently have greater page requirements. What I said still applies.

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Because I'll be publishing in a monthly English magazine.
I don`t know all that much (of anything really) about the English language manga world... But I was under the impression that as it is a significantly smaller market that it was much much harder to be published and to make any money.

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Umad, bro?
Not really, but it looks like you are.

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Since I just corrected you, you might snap back. But, I don't really care, you're too rude to listen to, have fun being wrong.
I`ll be happy to be proven wrong.
With actual proof, however - not wishful thinking and extremely optimistic math.

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It is brilliant talents. What time do you debut?
I second this. With the amazing speed skills you have, and the apparent ease at which you talk about being published and making lots of money... You do have a series lined up for publishing, right?

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I don`t get why everyone is telling me to be realistic about being an actress! I mean, I am great at acting. I can memorize my lines in one quick read - I don`t even need my own copy of the script. Being in a Hollywood blockbuster it just a dream - I`ll be totally happy with a weekly sitcom on my local tv station. Yeah, I know you don`t make a lot of money at first. I`ll have to work hard. But think about it... Even for a pretty minor part you make something like $5000 per episode. And that is for one 30 minute episode once a week. For me that is 10 minutes to learn the script, 10 minutes to get ready, and an hour of filming. Much less than a normal workday!
Just be on a couple more shows each week, and you`ll be making $60,000 a month. Doesn`t sound so bad now, does it?



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