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Originally Posted by OHayou
I guess we have to define what "disrespectful" and "insolent" mean. "Disrespectful" to who? "Insolent" to who? The reason "nice guys finish last" is not because it's not good to be a "nice" guy but a lot of "nice guys" don't have an opinion, a voice, and are afraid to rock the boat. In career OR relationships.
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After the interview we (the team) show the candidates the kind of tasks which should be executed. Insolent candidates are all the time making negative comments and judging how stupid the way we do this job! And they would do it better! Indeed this kind of candidates got each time the job because they are more promising!! And each time the result was catastrophic: The work was badly done. Customers were angry and escalated because of bad delivered job and additionally complained about insulting treatment. We (the team) was obliged to do overtime for correcting the badly done job and for writing reports, statements and apologetic e-mails. After some months these candidates were asked to leave!
I agree with you that nice good qualified guys finish last. To be humble despite good qualification isn't helping a lot. Future employer want to see some personal enthusiasm and motivation. That means to be less introvert.
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I guess this goes for a lot of us right!? We typically try to seek out people who are very similar to us but it's not necessarily a good thing. It's a weak center based on insecurity to try to exclusively surround yourself with people who are exactly like yourself. Diversity is what makes a relationship strong in either career or relationship.
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In general it's unfortunately like you mentioned and it's a weak point. It shouldn't really disturb if someone is very different, less funny or very quiet etc. very important is to work hard, (try to work) exactly, to assume responsibility and to contribute in developing good technical process.
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I see opinion and not fact. I know a lot of business owners who would laugh at the "perfect and a very serious candidate" because if you knew that then you have a great talent. Most people put on their "representative ass kicking persona" when applying for a job. Job execution is an entirely different thing. Besides...'very serious' and 'dedicated' are very different things. Some companies and executives LIKE outgoing, party type personalities while others like very introverted, serious personalities. How can we standardize this?
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I think it's a tough point. The executive has the influence. I remember once things went bad by a party type executive and his team. Customer threatened to cancel the contract if measures aren't taken. So the campany showed integrity/seriousness and fired this executive.
In a big campany it's very difficult to have control over every unit. So, unfortunately bad news should first come from disappointed customer. After action will be taken.