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09-26-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by masaegu View Post
Here is a tough one. I am going to say that the first one is correct and preferrable. The second one is not entirely correct to begin with but it sounds almost "correct" because so many people, even including professional announcers, actually use it for the same meaning as the first. It is like a blind spot in the particle world.
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Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
で has a lot more examples in Eijiro than に. Just pointing that out in case Maxful wanted to see examples (and it comports with your statement, masaegu).

It sounds weird with に anyway, to me. It's hard to justify the use of に: 選手権 isn't the indirect object of 優勝する. It's, if any kind of object, a direct object requiring を (but this isn't used). But we use で instead because it's sort of locational (requiring the locative で particle), right?

「選手権にて優勝する」という意味ですよね。

Thanks for the help, masaegu and KyleGoetz.


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