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10-06-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu View Post
This is only partially correct. C02 is a greenhouse gas only at a certain concentration. There is a saturation point that once reached, will not contain more heat.

Moreover, the past ties between C02 and temperature increase was inverse to the situation today, C02 increased FOLLOWING temperature increaese, it was not the cause, it was the effect. Am I not right? Please keep your facts accurate.
If there is a saturation point of C02 then it appears that we have not yet reached that point. So increasing it's concentrations will have a positive feedback on tropospheric temperatures.
The following two papers make that clear from both satellite and terrestrial observations.

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/100737.pdf
http://www.eumetsat.int/home/main/pu..._harries_v.pdf

Yes in the historical record rises in C02 usually follow rises initially in temperatures. It's pretty clear though that the two are linked. For the most part periods of higher temperatures also had periods of higher C02 concentrations. So what happens when humans upset the normal balance by rapidly increasing the C02 concentrations over a relatively short period?

For anyone on here wanting to look at some real science and look at scientific discussion that debunks most of the myths that people like Sangetsu and Ryzorian peadle here I would suggest downloading the following

The Scientific Guide to Global Warming Skepticism

The guy who wrote this is John Cook, an Australian solar physicist who has been awarded the Eureka Prize, the most prestigious award in Australian science.
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