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11-13-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by delacroix01 View Post
Hmm, actually they are variants. In the typing program I use, ~ and ~ appear quite different. I don't know why, but ~ looks smaller than ~ in the program. On this forum, it's the opposite, though.
You are using a weird program if, when you do Japanese input, typing ~ gives you ~ instead of 〜. On both OSX and Windows, 〜 is what shows up.

The first is a tilde. The second is the なみ/から/にょろ Japanese mark. If I am in US-input mode in OSX, ~ is ~. If I am in Japanese-input mode, 〜 is what comes out. Then I can spacebar through to get ~ if I want (tilde).

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Well, ー is part of the long vowels, so it's very easy to type. I knew that one ever since I started learning Japanese. What I'm trying to figure out is this one :



The symbol is widely used in both fictional works and dictionaries, so I think there should be a way to type them quickly. I'm thinking of creating my own input, but I don't know the term. Do you know how that symbol is called in Japanese?
Gotcha. For reference, the first is called 長音符, 棒線, or any other different terms. The latter I don't know. But I sure can't type it on my keyboard. Kind of like how in Windows, it's difficult to type — (the em dash) and – (the en dash), neither of which appear on the keyboard (only the hyphen does).

Hyphen: used in words like "pre-existing"
En dash: used for number spans like "50–60"
Em dash: the dash used in writing like the parenthesis and colon like "He came to me—no, wait, he didn't."

(It just so happens on OSX all three are very easy to type hyphen, option+hyphen, shift+option+hyphen, but not on Windows.)

Perhaps the JP wikipedia entry has some help. I only skimmed it though. 長音符 - Wikipedia

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