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LawlietsGirl 01-21-2008 12:08 AM

that's not always true
 
there are some black people in anime, but you don't always see them. if anyone's ever seen blood plus, there's 2 (count 'em, 2!) black guys in the show. both play somewhat of a big role in the show, too! >_<

MMM 01-21-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LawlietsGirl (Post 365064)
there are some black people in anime, but you don't always see them. if anyone's ever seen blood plus, there's 2 (count 'em, 2!) black guys in the show. both play somewhat of a big role in the show, too! >_<

You do see black characters...but funny, they never have Japanese names. Which tells me that the "caucasian" depicted in the OP's question aren't really caucasian.

Yokan 01-21-2008 12:34 AM

I've heard Japanese people want "Western eyes" now... like they're getting surgeries to change their eyeshape. I think manga has heavily influence on this, since the eyes tend to be glittery and oversized - especially in shojo.

And we all know that real human beings, including Westerners, do not have those enormous eyes. -__-

MaymeRachael 01-21-2008 12:55 AM

Yeah, I heard about the sugery thing also (weird)

Ronin4hire 01-21-2008 01:17 AM

I heard that Anime characters are drawn with big eyes because it's easier to show emotion in big eyes. You'll notice that in much anime, the noses and mouths are still still very Asian looking. In Disney cartoons you'll notice that the eyes are exaggerated for the exact same reason however because Asians have smaller eyes a lot of people make the mistake that they are trying to draw them white.

Ronin4hire 01-21-2008 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaymeRachael (Post 365183)
Yeah, I heard about the sugery thing also (weird)

I'd be careful when jumping to that conclusion. I don't think it's about being less Asian looking. Rather they just want bigger eyes. I mean you wouldn't say that a white woman getting a tan was doing so because she was trying to be black or latino, she probably just likes the look of the complexion.

MMM 01-21-2008 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 365246)
I'd be careful when jumping to that conclusion. I don't think it's about being less Asian looking. Rather they just want bigger eyes. I mean you wouldn't say that a white woman getting a tan was doing so because she was trying to be black or latino, she probably just likes the look of the complexion.

I have to agree with this, too. There isn't an Asian I know that wishes they weren't Asian. However, in some circles, narrow eyes are considered unattractive, while larger, eyes are considered cute. I have also seen black color contacts that are supposed to make your pupils look huge, giving an "anime" look. That, too, has nothing to do with looking like caucasians.

Yuna7780 01-21-2008 05:02 AM

I think their eyes look a bit Asian sometimes.
I also read this Tezuka manga and it looked VERY Mickey-Mouse, so the way manga is drawn and anime is made today has morphed from one popular style to another. Things evolve. :)

Cyasarin 01-21-2008 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 365521)
I have to agree with this, too. There isn't an Asian I know that wishes they weren't Asian. However, in some circles, narrow eyes are considered unattractive, while larger, eyes are considered cute. I have also seen black color contacts that are supposed to make your pupils look huge, giving an "anime" look. That, too, has nothing to do with looking like caucasians.

I agree with you both that it might not have to do with not wanting to be Asian and it's more likely that people simply want bigger eyes. My friend has very narrow, squinty, brown eyes and I have these huge, round, blue eyes that just pop and she's always telling me how she wishes that she had my eyes. So, yeah, it might not be that they don't want to look Asian...
But yeah...about the topic. I agree with some other people on here that it's not because Japanese people want to be American and it's more about the style of their art and to show emotions better. I mean, it'd take me a gazillion tries to draw an Asian-looking person with my style and I think it's much easier to show a character's emotions if their eyes are bigger.

SailorBratt18 01-21-2008 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MaymeRachael (Post 364488)
Who would want to become American anyways! >_<'

^_^

Ouch! That hurt! You might want to watch what you say though. I could care less because I know that America rocks but I do know there is a substantial amount of Americans on this site that might not like the comment you stated above.

Anywho! I just want to say that Anime Kitty and MMM's arguments are very funny and informing. (just thought I'd put that out there)

In answer to the question, I believe that the reason why the skin color of anime/manga characters is "white" is because of the "geisha mind factor." (that is totally made up since I seem to be lacking in words today) When you think about it, traditional Japanese culture encouraged the powdering of one self (same as Europeans and Americans). Why this is, I know not. I just know that many women had the white powder and all the other makeup and in the end they came out looking white. So maybe that's where it comes from. I don't know, it's just one of my crazy theories. I really have no idea. -.-'


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