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kokunin 08-07-2007 05:57 PM

the eyes and hair?
 
why the heck are there so many characters that have, no offense, european features to their body. Naurto's main character is a blue eyed blonde haired guy (what the hell, never saw that in japan 2000 yrs. ago). they have the humongous eyes (compared to the asian scheme of things, they don't have that feature, unless they're mixed) I don't get it. Tsubasa has the same thing, what the heck, the chick named sakura has freakishly light color (and an albino japanese person has green eyes and shiroikami)...MAN COME ON!!! I look at these things and they have the culture of japan and have the manerisms but the people and the faces don't match it...i mean if your gonna have a history manga then why the HELL does the main character have eyes that are like blue-ish and then have FREAKISH red hair, not that brownish red hair not like RADIACTIVE RED HAIR? " LOOK DEEP INTO MY FACE, I SELL DECIET. WITHOUT A TRAAACE!!!!"

Narutocrazy101 08-07-2007 06:02 PM

I dont get that at all. but i go along with it:confused:

kokunin 08-07-2007 06:08 PM

why do you float in a sea of indecision?

terra104 08-07-2007 06:21 PM

well, lets see, anime is being made not only for asians, but for audiance worldwide, and so i thnk having european features, or scenes from the wild west is done to help all relate to the anime!

Darkhatecrew 08-07-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by terra104 (Post 198832)
well, lets see, anime is being made not only for asians, but for audiance worldwide, and so i thnk having european features, or scenes from the wild west is done to help all relate to the anime!

Like she said. It is only to make everyone in the world relate to the anime scene.

Suki 08-07-2007 06:27 PM

Oi not again!

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/anim...ese-anime.html

terra104 08-07-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhatecrew (Post 198835)
Like he said. It is only to make everyone in the world relate to the anime scene.

she.. she.. she..she!

Darkhatecrew 08-07-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by terra104 (Post 198894)
she.. she.. she..she!

sowwy *cute eyes*

ILOVEJAPAN 08-07-2007 08:22 PM

japan
 
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Originally Posted by terra104 (Post 198832)
well, lets see, anime is being made not only for asians, but for audiance worldwide, and so i thnk having european features, or scenes from the wild west is done to help all relate to the anime!

Im sorry, but I gotta disagree. Anime is made in Japan, for a Japanese audience, they dont even take the rest of the world into consideration when making this stuff.

Do you think Hollywood considers what global audiences want to see, just because Hollywood movies are extremley popular world wide? The answer is: No.

Suki 08-08-2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ILOVEJAPAN (Post 199046)
Im sorry, but I gotta disagree. Anime is made in Japan, for a Japanese audience, they dont even take the rest of the world into consideration when making this stuff.

Do you think Hollywood considers what global audiences want to see, just because Hollywood movies are extremley popular world wide? The answer is: No.

Well yeah of course they do! They need to know what people out there want to see, cause it's them (us) who will determine wheteher it's worth it or not! All they care about is getting successful results, and that is up to the audience.

And if anime is only supposed to be watched in Japan, why do the characters not look Japanese?

ShiaLover44 08-08-2007 12:10 AM

i love the hair especially the girls hair yay:mtongue:

Shaelyn 08-08-2007 12:16 AM

when anime started, I highly doubt they were thinking about an international audience.

I've been wondering about it myself...

international audience or not, there's also the fact that the anime culture is still very japanese. I don't see many, if any shrines in the west, and the public schools here don't have school uniforms. and then, some anime characters still wear a lot of japanese clothes that we straight up don't have in the west. a lot of anime is also centered around tokyo tower, and has a ton of other japanese references that the west isn't going to really relate to. also, take hikaru no go as another example - most westerners haven't even HEARD of the game Go. with all this eastern influence, it doesn't make sense that anime characters look more like western people...unless it's just to make the main character stand out, but if they all look western...that doesn't make sense either.

I have noticed something else though. young women get those huge bright eyes...but older women in anime have small, slanted eyes about half the time.

it's probably just for effect...

anyway, as far as hair goes, I'm willing to bet that really is just an effect to make the main character(s) stand out. then there's instances like 12 kingdoms, where it's actually a part of the story.

kireikoori 08-08-2007 12:44 AM

Oh Jesus Christ. Not again.
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Originally Posted by kokunin (Post 198804)
they have the humongous eyes (compared to the asian scheme of things, they don't have that feature, unless they're mixed)

O.K. WTF?
Japanese people often have quite huge eyes. Natually. Methinks you watch too much anime and have completely avoided all other Japanese media. This statement freaked me out so much I was like...is this even worth commenting on?
Mixed Japanese don't even seem to have bigger eyes than the average Japanese. I guess if the the Japanese parent was one of the single eyelid ones then the kids probably would have double eyelids if mixed. But guess what? Japan is filled with big eyed double eyelid people. Single eyelids are far far more common in China.

About the hair. Black isn't the only hair color Asians can have naturally. Sometimes it's brown. Naturally.
Secondly. Yeah, and Pink hair is real natural for Westerners!:rolleyes:

And also, sometimes the characters are set in Europe! Like Hellsing! So wouldn't "European" features make sense? There are just as many characters in anime with "Eastern" features as well.
To me anime walks the line between Western, Eastern and Alien in features. That you can't tell which it is. And I like that.

Oh, and anime is made by Japanese people for Japanese people. In the early days of anime people had to struggle to get anime. It took a long time for it to actually become available in American stores. And if it weren't for those underground fans proclaiming how much they wanted it all the time it would never be available on tv, in stores, catalogues or elsewhere. Japan never intended to market anime outside of Japan.

Shaelyn 08-08-2007 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kireikoori (Post 199758)
Oh, and anime is made by Japanese people for Japanese people. In the early days of anime people had to struggle to get anime. It took a long time for it to actually become available in American stores.

quoted for truth.

hell, it's still hard to find anime...you have to really know where to look, or go to a convention. around here, all the good anime stores have pretty much shut down.

fry's is about the only place left.

Shaelyn 08-08-2007 01:01 AM

double post ~grumble~

ILOVEJAPAN 08-08-2007 06:04 PM

exactly.
 
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Originally Posted by Shaelyn (Post 199680)
when anime started, I highly doubt they were thinking about an international audience.

I've been wondering about it myself...

international audience or not, there's also the fact that the anime culture is still very japanese. I don't see many, if any shrines in the west, and the public schools here don't have school uniforms. and then, some anime characters still wear a lot of japanese clothes that we straight up don't have in the west. a lot of anime is also centered around tokyo tower, and has a ton of other japanese references that the west isn't going to really relate to. also, take hikaru no go as another example - most westerners haven't even HEARD of the game Go. with all this eastern influence, it doesn't make sense that anime characters look more like western people...unless it's just to make the main character stand out, but if they all look western...that doesn't make sense either.

I have noticed something else though. young women get those huge bright eyes...but older women in anime have small, slanted eyes about half the time.

it's probably just for effect...

anyway, as far as hair goes, I'm willing to bet that really is just an effect to make the main character(s) stand out. then there's instances like 12 kingdoms, where it's actually a part of the story.

Exactly. If they cared eveny remotly what audiences abroad tought, they wouldnt make so many reffrences to Japanese culture, they dont even consider the global audeince at all.

I think the reason young people have huge eyes and adults have thiner eye, is because large eyes show inocents and narow eyes show maturity. Notice that girls also have larger eyes than boys.

ILOVEJAPAN 08-08-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kireikoori (Post 199758)
Oh Jesus Christ. Not again.

O.K. WTF?
Japanese people often have quite huge eyes. Natually. Methinks you watch too much anime and have completely avoided all other Japanese media. This statement freaked me out so much I was like...is this even worth commenting on?
Mixed Japanese don't even seem to have bigger eyes than the average Japanese. I guess if the the Japanese parent was one of the single eyelid ones then the kids probably would have double eyelids if mixed. But guess what? Japan is filled with big eyed double eyelid people. Single eyelids are far far more common in China.

Somthing to consider is that many asians have surgery on there eyes (a very popular phenominon in asaia) I dont think slanted/single eyelids are more or less comon in any specific country. I dont think large eyes in anime are suposed to look western, they are just suposed to represent inocents.



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Originally Posted by kireikoori (Post 199758)
About the hair. Black isn't the only hair color Asians can have naturally. Sometimes it's brown. Naturally.
Secondly. Yeah, and Pink hair is real natural for Westerners!:rolleyes:

Yea I agree, alot of anime characters have pink, blue, red, purple hair, no one has hair like that.

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Originally Posted by kireikoori (Post 199758)
And also, sometimes the characters are set in Europe! Like Hellsing! So wouldn't "European" features make sense? There are just as many characters in anime with "Eastern" features as well.
To me anime walks the line between Western, Eastern and Alien in features. That you can't tell which it is. And I like that.

Some anime is set in europe but its more often set in Japan. Name me 5 set in europe and I will name you 50 set in Japan. There are many characters in anime with easter features, and alot with western features, they dont look like alians to me, but thats just because Im used to the style (if I wasnt used to it and saw it for the first time I might think they looked like alians. Anyway, as I was saying, even though many anime characters do have eastern features, almost all of them have white skin (thats the part I dont get).

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Originally Posted by kireikoori (Post 199758)
Oh, and anime is made by Japanese people for Japanese people. In the early days of anime people had to struggle to get anime. It took a long time for it to actually become available in American stores. And if it weren't for those underground fans proclaiming how much they wanted it all the time it would never be available on tv, in stores, catalogues or elsewhere. Japan never intended to market anime outside of Japan.

Thats absolutly true. I think people forget that the only reason anime excists in the US is because there was alot of demand for it. Not because Japanese tried to market it to us.


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